I’ve run into a lot of them, in real life and in-game. Probably why I feel the way I do. Been bullied into submission all of my life, basically.
I try to interrupt a lot, and many times I am successful. When I am not, usually it’s because I get nervous and accidently try to interrupt something uninterruptable, or someone else beats me to the punch. With about every class having an interrupt that’s an easy thing to mess up.
I’m just having a hard time developing that thick skin, that’s all.
Dude, seriously, you need to go see a therapist or something. All the whining on an internet forum isn’t gonna save you from your own insecurities.
I played several years of little league. I treated it as a bit of fun. It wasn’t the end of the world if the team I was on lost. Also, I think there is a difference between a hardcore World of Warcraft player and someone who plays high school Basketball.
I was just using interrupts as an example of different ways an idea could be expressed with different levels of what could be viewed as toxicity.
Obviously the correct way to express such an idea would be “We need to make sure we interrupt next time.” But people are blunt.
I mean this as kindly as I can, but I think bullying and feeling bullied is often a matter of perception and maybe even a reaction to a flawed personality.
What i mean, is I used to feel as though I got bullied a lot as a child. But as I have grown up and matured, I realized I sort of brought it upon myself. I was a confrontational anti social kid, with a narcissistic streak. I stayed to myself, but thought I was smart and better than everyone and that reflected in the way I interacted with people.
When I inevitably got back lash for say, calling out someone for not knowing something, I would view that back lash as them bullying me. And when they gave me a cold shoulder based on their initial negative interaction with me I would view that as them further bullying me.
There is a saying, if everywhere you run it smells like dog poo, maybe it you who stepped in the dog poo. You are the common denominator.
It may not be a nice thing to say but it is what I believe is the truth.
If you see toxic and rude people everywhere you go, you are either too sensitive to it and focusing to much on the negative interactions and ignoring the good and neutral interations. Or you are the person creating the toxic environment yourself.
Depend a lot on the situation and the events that lead up to the instances.
In real life? I don’t know your personal story, so I don’t have anyway of knowing if it was justified. I’ve had the same done to me, and in all honesty I deserved it for being a not so good person even though at the time I felt it was unwarranted.
In game? Don’t worry so much. People will whisper you and call you names because they have been trying to get into a group for an hour and keep getting declined. It’s nothing you are doing wrong, so don’t worry about it.
Now if you are joining keys that are way above your gear and skill level and ruining them, that is a different matter. You probably don’t deserved to be told to kill yourself (In fact pretty sure thats against ToS), but you gotta expect some anger on the part of the other members of your team. That is you deserving the stuff flying your way, not examples of toxicity and you being bullied.
I’m just giving my unsolicited advice as someone who may have been in the same situation you are, afraid to even leave the house who has overcome such insecurities. Then again our life experience may be vastly different, so maybe what I’m saying is not applicable.
And again no offense, but this post is kinda the issue. No one likes an insecure downer. Threatening to kill yourself is not exactly attractive and will lead people to want to distance and leave you.
My suggestion, is if you haven’t already, seek some proffesional. You sound really screwed up, no offense.
If your expression of feeling suicidal genuine, suicide is never the answer. In fact if you are feeling suicidal visit https://www.crisisservicescanada.ca/en/ for Canada, https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ for the US, https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/suicide/ for the UK, and https://www.lifeline.org.au/ for Austrailia, to talk with someone.
People aren’t as bad as you think they are. Most in fact are good people, or at the very least have good intentions. The people who are genuinely out to hurt people and create toxicity and strife are the small minority.
You may be in a dark place right now, and view the world and the people out to get you. But it it’s not the case. But I know from experience that people telling you this isn’t helpful, doesn’t make it any less the truth though. It starts with you. It is very likely that if you work on yourself that one day you see this.
I would have denied you for being so purple, unless you were willing to be referred to as “A Pimp Named Slickback”
I’m of the opinion that it’s never justified.
This is why I hide from the world.
It’s hard to believe this after what has happened to me personally, and after all of the things I’ve read. Watch just about any kind of historical video. Pick any period you like. Last video I watched was on Hiroshima. Humankind can seriously be monstrous. Can you blame me for being terrified of people?
I could start a group right now for any M0 to try and get a key, and have absolutely no idea who I’m going to get. That’s just a fear I have, and I can’t help that.
IO is fine tbh. The problem comes when M+ becomes mandatory for people who don’t really want to do M+.
Take pvpers for example, I honestly find m+ kind of repetitive and don’t really want to do it but there’s no better way of gearing for pvp than doing M+ (0 logic here).
Then IO is trully like trying to breathe in Chernobyl.
You may have this opinion, but it doesn’t change the fact, that when you something to tick someone off, they are going to express themselves back to you. Its the way of the world. You have to learn to accept that.
People may take it too far sometimes but in general the reaction can be justified to a certain extent. I don’t feel its justified to call it toxicity if you are the person who created the environment in the first place.
Might I suggest you restrict the content you in take if your mental state is so disrupted. If you are already ina pretty negative head space, just watching more negative content will reinforce and exasperate the problem. Sure it may be a comfort having your view of the world affirmed, but at the end of the day its not helping you.
Watching optimistic content may disgust you especially if you are in that bad headspace, but would be much more helpful.
It is very easy to pick out bad parts of history and use as examples of humans being monstrous. But you ignore all the times that humans beings are good. You ignore all the times that they work together, sacrifice themselves, and try to make the world a better place.
Human beings are simple. When their needs are not being met, they will act out, even violently at times. Most wars and genocides have occurred either directly or indirectly due to resource shortages.
When you consider that humans beings for most of human history have struggled to even feed themselves on a daily basis, I think its miracle that humans manged to go from simple hunter gatherers to the world wide internet driven society that they are to day. If they weren’t good and cooperative by nature that would never have happened.
Telling someone that they should kill themselves because they pulled an extra pack of mobs or missed an interrupt in a dungeon is not justifiable at all.
Getting my butt kicked in the parking lot because it was part of my job to report loiterers at my place of business is not justifiable either.
You’re right, it’s not. It’s a good thing most people aren’t like that then.
I’ve personally never encountered, and as I say I PuG the vast majority of my runs.
But lets be real. Its some petulant child on the internet. Don’t let it get to you. Report them and move on with your day.
But if you are already suicidal or having such thoughs, maybe you are justified in not wanting to enter a space where such words might be stated and reinforcing such a head space.
Maybe internet games are not for you.
That sucks. Some people will react horribly even and maybe more so when they are in the wrong.
Still doesn’t prove that the majority of people are bad people. Just because you had one or two bad experiences.
I already do, but it doesn’t eliminate the bad taste it leaves in my mouth, and it does end up ruining my day following the experience.
I’ve had many more than that, but that’s neither here nor there.
Point is I’m just terrified of entering blind stranger pugs because I don’t know who is going to be cool, and who is going to be toxic.
Look at the Frost Mage in my M+ group. She uses an orb build that is way more mobile and does a ton more aoe dmg. If you don’t want to play fire then this is the way to go.
Edit: Actually it looks like she changed things around a bit for raid but there’s definitely an orb build.
I actually have thought about swapping to the freezing orb build. It uses haste as opposed to mastery, which is great as my mage is a goblin and gets a haste bonus, so it would feel more cohesive. I’m just waiting till I can get the gear pieces to try it out. I’m told I need 3x Packed Ice to make it viable.
lol at playing anything but fire in 2020
If you’re not cutting edge +25 key pushing, you should be allowed to play whatever you want.
Eh some people play what they like. It’s viable for the content he wants to do so there’s really no harm.
Honestly, unless we are talking CE content (+15 and above) it doesn’t really matter. Up until that point, knowing your spec and knowing the mechanics are far more important.
Not too familiar with mage, but just because fire parses higher than frost at the highest levels, doesn’t mean that frost mage can’t do a decent job in mythic+
If we are talking below 10’s all one can hope is you do more damage than the tank in all honesty.
From what I understand, Fire does better in methodical groups where every pull is mapped out and planned, and they can do those sweet sweet Combustion numbers. That’s why it’s so greatly represented in the top IO listings and whatnot. In groups that are less organized, it’s not nearly as effective.
I made the call and decided to stick with a spec I was familiar with, and geared for, rather than try to shake things up by trying to learn a new spec and farm a whole new set of gear. I have a hard enough time with the game as it is and didn’t want to make it even harder if possible.
But I’m also nowhere near a cutting edge player, so it really shouldn’t matter.