I’m pretty sure lotus in AV and DM was a pserver thing, but I honestly cannot remember.
There is definitely a lot of back and forth on that one, and the easiest way I’ve found to separate the parrots from the people who are actually trying to recall accurately - is to ask them how they spawned in DM. If the person telling you this says that they were just there to pick like a normal herb, consider that this person doesn’t know what the hell they’re talking about.