Sylvanas was working with the Jailer at the time. The burning of the tree was equal parts giving him more souls to work with, punishing Saurfang for his failure and proving to the dying Delaryn Summermoon that she could in fact ‘kill hope’ (even though she ultimately failed in the long run).
There’s no connection between what Elune chose to do (or rather chose not to do) and what Sylvanas chose to do other than that it involved the souls within the tree.
They keep axing their QA team, I guess we now know that includes story/lore QA as well.
Seriously though, I’ve long since given up on Warcraft lore because how commonly they retcon things to fit whatever the most recent narrative they want to tell is. Didn’t they even contradict the first volume of those “comprehensive” lore books they released awhile back with the second volume?
The QA team that got fired recently was from Raven Software, not Blizzard Entertainment.
They don’t work on the same games (Raven primarily works on Call of Duty).
Kneeshooter, excellent post, I agree completely. But most people don’t want to see see these simple and rational arguments. Seems just keeping on hating is much easier. 
we Have to separate Sylvanas in two characters - Sylvanas and the Banshee … Tyrande help! Renewal …
You are correct, I must not have been paying attention. Where in game does it talk about what happens to mortals in the shadowlands? Because I spent a stupid amount of time trying to convince everyone I was one so it’s not like mortals are running around there or that people are able to go to the maw and back.
It is hard to rip off so many sources at once, and keep them all coherent. Specially when none if it was originally written by the one designing it.
Watch it again if that’s what you got.
Blizzard talked about what happens to us mortals in pre-shadowlands interviews. Basically when we die, because we’re mortal, our soul goes to the Shadowlands. But if a being within the Shadowlands dies, in most cases their souls are destroyed. There seem to be exceptions to this rule regarding Maldraxxus though, as they’re able to transfer souls from one undead body to another (according to Draka) and they’re able to preserve the souls of slain Kyrians allowing them to have ‘some’ control over the flesh of the constructs the Kyrian bodies are used on (Maldraxxus quest chain).
So it’s not in game anywhere and Sylvanas didn’t die here. She got her soul shoved back into her like a bad take from Buffy and Angel so she can feel bad about what she did while left to die. Baine is the only one with any sense
Wasn’t tracking this most recent one but I thought in the past the QA team was often included in the Blizzard layoff waves.
Also add how he plugs his finger into his ears and goes “la la la la you’ll are just haters” and it’s obvious why things are the way they are
No, but that can be said for quite a lot of the lore which can be found in books, Q&A sessions and interviews. This isn’t a new thing.
And as I said in the post you responded to. Killing Sylvanas would have resulted in her soul going to the Shadowlands, meaning she could have been resurrected (Bolvar could have turned her into a Death Knight) or her soul could have been liberated from the Maw by the Maw Walkers and then her soul could have given the information needed to stop the Jailer.
What the Jailer did ensured that, had Uther not intervened, Sylvanas was taken out of the picture. He didn’t count on Uther doing what he did.
So he’s just dumb then. Plus Sylvanas is not mortal.
Smart actually, again, because it was a way to eliminate someone who could either reveal his plans or attempt to stop him, in a way that would have been impossible to revert by any normal means. The Jailer did not know of Uther, he could not have forseen that Uther would use his own wound to talk to the portion of Sylvanas’s soul that was fighting against her and preventing her from waking up.
As for Sylvanas, yes, she is mortal in the sense that if she dies in the Shadowlands, her soul would go to the Shadowlands like any other mortal. She is not a denizen of the Shadowlands who’s soul would be destroyed if she were killed there.
She’s not mortal, she’s a construct that has died three times and been resurrected. And yes he is dumb if he believed no one would be able to do anything for Sylvanas, especially after attacking his brothers and sisters.
The thing is: People are thinking about Danuser in regards of what his works “amounts to”, but not in regards of what his goals are.
To illustrate:
You and someone else are in a car, that someone else is driving, and want to pass by the theater and see what is showing up there, but the original destination was the supermarket. You are trying to tell them that is not the way to the supermarket, but they dont listen to that correction because they are not going to the supermarket anyway. However they are not in the correct way to the theater either.
You cant tell them they are wrong in their goal, and they wont tell you what their full list of goals are.
Can she be killed again? If the answer is yes, then by raw definition she’s mortal.
You can argue that she’s not alive (as she’s undead), but she is mortal.
And again, not dumb, he got rid of Sylvanas (or at least he thought so) and there’s no evidence supporting the idea that the Primus, Winter Queen or Archon could do anything for her.
Sounds like you’re just looking for excuses to be critical. When you have to look for excuses to dislike something, that means you’ve got an unhealthy relationship with that thing.
Thats true, but its also true that Blizzard frequently doesnt explain things within the game (preferring novels and so forth) and has this fascination with drawing out the story and keeping us guessing, as if we are in a book, not playing a game.
If you look back at Wrath, for example: we knew exactly who we were going to be finally fighting and why. There was no hidden agenda, no secret plots - it was just us and him and his forces. But since that time they have started doing this dribble-feeding of the story as if we need to be kept in the dark and fed crumbs, like prisoners chained to the storyline.
Nowadays, its Blizzard who plays the Jailer, and we’re the ones struggling to get out. And I dont like that restraint one little bit, in fact Im totally over it. Give us expansions with an obvious endplay towards which we head, growing along the way. Rather than his weak lore that constantly needs to be explained, and justified.
A poster above laid it out pretty well to me so I understand what happened now.
That said, many of you were extremely hostile towards my questions. Calm down. If we as players don’t understand something about the lore and come here for questions, you don’t need to be so uppity about it. Some of us don’t learn as fast as you do, and you people need to be more considerate of that.
I’m genuinely disgusted by how so many of you responded to me for asking a simple question. Do better.