That’s a given like “bacon will make it taste even better”.
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nothing wrong with that, in my single days I must have tested countless fans, thermal paste, case airflow, PSU alignment, and heatsinks trying to lower temps by a few C just because I had the time and hardware to do so. Guess what I found out though?
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Ty lilybug. I do a complete new rig like this every 5years. The only reason I have been at this so long is it seems Zen3 changed the game. With both my i9 10900k and motherboard being returnable it just made sense to move to Ryzen Zen 3.
I’m not sure they changed the game as much as they upped their game. If the Ryzen 5600x came out at $200 and the Ryzen 5800x came out at $350 we would all be stating this is AMD’s version of the i5-2500k/i7-2600k no brainier picks and intel needs to go back to the drawing board and better not come out with thier version of the pile driver CPU or they may take six years before they can even be competitive again.
Agreed everything I have seen thats upcoming from intel has made me question their sanity in there to be honest. To most of what I have seen from Rocket Lake news I find my self asking “ummmm why!?” more often than not. Including things like new intel 500 series chipset. For one generation!? Why?
They needed to just skip Rocket Lake imo and go back to the drawing board. Either way it will be 2022 before we see revamps from either side. Zen3 will probably be your best option till then imo.
Whats your opinion?
Every box I’ve built has been Intel thus far, but if I were building today I’d definitely be building AMD. Even if the performance is similar between the two and cost is ignored, there’s still the power savings/heat angle to consider. Efficiency isn’t normally the biggest priority for desktops, but it’s hard to justify Intel’s notably higher power demand for effectively the same result.
It’s a bit nutty that you can get AMD 16 core/32 thread for a power budget lower than Intel’s 10 core/20 thread.
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Whats crazy is this AMD 8 core performs the same as my i9 10900k 10 core. In some cases faster even! It also only gets only 400-500 points less on a multicore cinebench r20 run
I think Intel is already on the path of the Pentium 4 at this point. They’ll eventually come back with something meaningful for the consumer market like the Core 2, and in the meantime they’ll still get sales based on mindshare alone even now.
I haven’t watched Tech Deals in a while; although I like his content for novice builders and general information, I don’t really always agree with his opinions on things.
I don’t really find it that surprising. Keep in mind we are on 2015 (and really older) tech for Intel. This is just the maximum refinement of that technology, in terms of efficiency and thermal design.
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I have no doubt they will bounce back man. They are too large not to. My point was it will be 2022 before we see a revamp from either side. 2022 will definitely be a good year to upgrade. So in the meantime Zen 3 is where its at? Loving the Ryzen 7 5800x so far. Going to return the i9 10900k and motherboard tomorrow. The inconsistent thermals take getting use to due to PBO but other than that I am quite happy.
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I’d say what I’m more looking forward to, and I am not sure if it will happen, are super sales on Zen 2 parts.
I want to put together a modern downstairs PC. Originally thought about doing a refub business PC and just stream games, but that’s no fun.
I want a cheap 3rd gen Ryzen system to put together.
It will as soon as Zen 3 is easily obtainable. They will have no choice but to severely drop prices on them then. My money is on March/April
Just looking back at the last two years, which is probably not really fair given the circumstances now, they always had great deals.
in 2018 I got a Ryzen 5 1600 and X370 motherboard for $149, and last year they had Ryzen 7 2700x’s for $160 that I skipped out on because it wasn’t enough of an upgrade.
it kind of depends really on what you’re doing. Intel’s 10th gen desktop chips are very efficient, as long as you aren’t pushing higher clocks. If you are able to stay clocked low/voltage, Intel at the moment should have lower consumption while gaming. I have an i5-10400 that’s reporting using only about 6 watts(in software) give or take while playing Overwatch on my OEM system. Ryzen desktop(outside of Renoir) consumes 10-20 watts basically doing nothing due to the architecture. If you’re doing a bunch of benchmarks and super high loads, Ryzen will obviously beat out Intel, but if you’re doing lighter gaming/just web browsing + video, then Intel is still more efficient on desktop due to Ryzen’s high idle power - if you let the Intel processor properly drop low in voltage and such at least.
The efficiency is Renoir is higher, because it doesn’t face the same idle issues as the regular desktop chips.
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That’s fair, but I would guess anybody looking at the mid-high to high end CPUs are probably buying for the performance. Most people only looking to game probably don’t need a 10900k and definitely not a 3950x or 5950x unless they’re trying to push insane framerates and/or resolutions on a CPU bound game.
My personal use case includes compiling code and rendering stuff in Blender.
I’d say in your case, then yeah, Ryzen would blow Intel away in efficiency lol.
I bought my 2600x for $79
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