Alright, I got a reply from CS and yes we do need to enable this to be on the list to get these surveys. It will not guaranty that someone will be selected for every survey but it will ensure the chance to be.
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hey op
you’re kind of ridiculous. companies do customer surveys all the time.
The world is dead, devoid of players except in expansion areas, and even that population is buffed by CRZ.
In 14 years I’ve never seen the world on the 6 servers I play on so empty.
If you are even mildly conversant with these forums you will see legions of posts just like this, on both old and new forums.
The degree of depopulation is unprecedented in my experience. Obviously I can’t speak for anyone else but only point as well to what others have stated.
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You made the argument that the game is dying, the burden of proof is on you, not me. Random posts on a forum aren’t enough, but to address your specific quotes.
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Those stock drops are industry wide with multiple game publishers and tech companies getting hit, even ones who have performed well. EA, Ubisoft, Take 2 and Tencent have also felt stockmarket hits despite the companies under their umbrella releasing amazing products. Rockstar for example just cleaned house with Red Dead Redeption 2 at the game awards, yet their owner, Take 2, took a stock hit.
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People have put ‘I quit’ and complaint threads up since vanilla, and the majority of the people who claim that they’re quitting don’t actually end up following through, often appearing months later to whinge some more.
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See number 2.
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Blizzard has already confirmed that when flying is unlocked we’ll be able to fly in the new zones that are being added to the game, so that’s a load of ignorant tripe.
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Oh good to know. Thank you very much!
And these are the same statements that have been made over and over again every single expansion.
The sky is falling.
Rift is going to kill WoW.
People hate this game!
Why would people hang out in old world content? It’s old content. There’s not much for players to do if they aren’t leveling. If you want to see activity in old world zones try an RP server where people seek out social interaction in such areas.
I regularly see people in current zones. Some zones I can’t even stay in when warmode is on as population is too high and violent.
I also don’t take these forums too terribly seriously. The vast majority of players on here just scream and throw feces for no reason other than this is the equivalent of trade chat. Hardly representative of the population at large.
I’ve never taken any of those positions in the past. But BfA is a flop.
I don’t base this view solely on forum posts by others – quite the contrary – my own observations in-game along with those of guild mates and friends who also have played for years, prompted me to look to the forums in the first place.
Played beta and participated in those forums heavily. The same complaints made during ALPHA still exist in-game.
I rarely see anyone online, regardless of the time of day or which server I’m on. Area 52 is a virtual ghost town and it’s one of THE biggest servers in the game.
Glad you’re having a different experience but apparently many are not.
To be fair, the game is dying. Same way you and I are all dying. It’s got a limited life span and it’s obviously not growing. It hasn’t been since like 2009. But it’s still alive and kicking until the day that it shuts down.
That day will be when it’s no longer profitable to keep running, or if the company goes belly-up (although someone else will likely buy it). Until that day tho, it’s alive and kicking, whether or not a certain chunk of the players are no longer having fun with it and leave.
Now you might not like that some servers are empty, or that your friends aren’t playing anymore, or that your guild feels quiet or empty… But that’s the state of your game, not the state of the game for everyone.
CRZ shows us that people are still playing, whether or not you like it. Group finder shows us that groups are still being made for nearly everything.
WoW’s not going anywhere tomorrow, it’s probably not going anywhere in the next 5 years.
All y’all making these claims are talking about other games that have a fraction of the active players that WoW does, and they’re still around for you to flock to.
So hang on tight folks, cuz we’re here for the long haul. With or without you.
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No one is upset that they are sending out surveys, that is a very good thing. People are upset that Blizzard will more than likely not pay attention to any survey that doesn’t blindly praise them.
My objection to CRZ is you can’t guild or trade with transient players; there is absolutely no incentive for players even to be civil anymore because there are no communal consequences .
This may be insignificant to you but not to me.
As I stated, glad you’re enjoying it.
I assume that at some point, we’ll see them move CRZ into things like clusters. It’s only a matter of time until we share complete functionality with your so-called transients.
Even easier? Server merges. Everyone does it.
It seems like they stopped that a while ago. I can only imagine that something different is in the works, that would be a better one-time solution than constantly joining servers. People migrate all the time, I’d wager that’s a more practical approach.
I’m surprised they haven’t figured out a way to turn these groups of CRZ servers into feeling like one big server, since sharding kinda handles everything now. But that would likely also be met with some backlash.
People like their server identity, people want their dead server to be busy, but people also don’t want to see people from other servers on it. I can’t imagine this is a very easy problem to solve.
As these forums show, Blizzard can never do anything right in the eyes of their community.
Server merges destroy games faster than they save them. Want proof? Look at Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning or Star Wars: The Old Republic. Both engaged in excessive server merges in order to cut costs and ‘group people together’ but ultimately in both cases it caused people to abandon the game wholesale because their friends, guilds, character names and communities were wiped out.
And while Star Wars is still hanging on due to brand recognition despite its extremely small population now, Warhammer Online was not so fortunate. They couldn’t even hold onto their population after the game went pseudo-free to play. Now it lives on only through private servers.
I’d like to think Blizzard is smart enough not to go down the same route.
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Sometimes Blizzard has done the right thing and has been praised for it (i.e., see Smoochums). These threads aren’t as enduring as the complaints, because they are the sequeaky wheels.
But largely the “fixes” are trivial and easy and don’t really address the larger problem.
Other companies just merge servers and have done with it, thereby preserving the server communities, AHs, trade and guilding abilities.
I have long felt that Blizzard likes having a huge list of servers, even if most of them are empty. Otherwise, why bother with phasing sharding and CRZ when mergers are probably the quickest and easiest fix for a waning population.
Other companies aren’t Blizzard. Other companies don’t hold a candle to the magnitude of World of Warcraft.
I mean heck. If they wanted, the easiest solution would be to remove the identification that the player is from another server, and allow guilding and trading. Assuming they could figure out a way to handle duplicate names.
But realistically, they probably don’t even view CRZ as a problem. There’s really no indication that it’s a popular enough issue among the players. Even if 100 or so people on these forums came together and griped about it, they wouldn’t even be a drop in the bucket.
I thought the question of where wow was heading was amusing as the first answer was ‘downhill’.
You go ahead and keep being the dutiful lapdog who happily accepts the scraps from Blizzard’s table. Maybe you’ll get that green text someday(probably not).
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" they probably don’t even view CRZ as a problem." – this is the problem Often things considered “hot” issues by players are things with which the dev team is “happy”. And again, CRZ is one factor I most frequently hear/read/see in complaints and “things that need fixing”.
Blizzard won’t be able to rest on its laurels forever. No king rules forever.
Perhaps not. Perhaps they need something threatening to come along.
But the MMO market is niche and nobody is really figuring out a way to revolutionize it. I wouldn’t be surprised if WoW was the last MMO standing, as the genre itself faded out of existence.