Dps meters do nothing but make people more toxic in runs, and let them basically look over shoulders and critique people constantly.
Completely remove them from the game in dungeons, and raids. Instead tie them only to dummies, and tune the game to match the lower dps that will likely come from less super tweaking.
The biggest problem with Wow is the toxicity, and the lack of blizzard listening to it’s customers during betas and updates. The dps meters are the lowest hanging fruit. If they went away, people would forget about them pretty damn fast, and we can stop having that extra bit of toxic learn to play bs in the game.
Edit: refined this a bit based on feedback and the way I originally described it. Don’t want to erase anything though. Here is what I meant/refined my thoughts to
LFR and LFG made groups should have self only dps meters.
Raid (normal and above), Mythics, and Custom groups full dps meters
That way you leave the tool in place for harder content where it is needed, and remove general bs and toxicity in the casual section.
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The biggest problem is the game throughout all of SL has been trash which has made people antsy. DPS meters aren’t a problem. They’re a tool. If you feel someone is being rude because of the tool, ignore or report and move on.
A hammer is a tool. If I use it to fix something around my house, I am using it as intended. If I suddenly bonk you on the big toe with it, I have become toxic. It is not the hammer’s fault, it just works here. It was my fault cause I’m a bad person.
If someone uses a damage meter to bonk you on the big toe, report if it’s bad enough, ignore if not. Just because some people would be rude because of a meter doesn’t mean you remove the functionality from other normal people. Don’t be silly.
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A DPS meter is just a tool. Its neither toxic nor non toxic.
This is like saying to ban screwdrivers because a serial killer uses a phillips to commit murders.
Just enforce punishments for toxicity. Meters are a good metric to measure damage checks which are important in higher content.
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Posts like this make me wish we could down vote.
The idea is so bad it doesn’t even merit time invested in an actual reply.
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DPS meters squeal on ppl that just auto-attack. They’re important.
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Sounds like someones regularly on the bottom of the meters and is angry over being called out over being carried
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People sure do love to defend a toxic system.
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No we wouldn’t, we have logs. Secondly if you know how to read a dps meter properly then you shouldn’t have anything to worry about provided you are playing to a level of the content you are in. Anyone like myself can easily spike a dps meter to 155k dps. Does that mean anything? No not really
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I love dps meters. They are a big part of the fun of the game for me. They allow me to work on improving my own performance from run to run and inform me about the potential of other specs/classes.
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wrong forums this is not ff14
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The tool itself is not toxic. people who are already toxic can use it in a way that is, but the existence of the tool isn’t.
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I can see pros and cons to dps meters. Although they can make epeens strict on how much dps you should do or get kicked, they also call out lazy peons who are barely above auto-attack dps. Wish there was a good balance with it somewhere.
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No, they’re an excellent tool to see how you’re doing, and what’s being purged/kicked. Target selection, too, like so you can see if somebody isn’t swapping to an add or whatever.
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I am OK with this for the general content like leveling dungeons, LFR, etc. Each increase in difficulty needs to also include an increase in performance required. Original WoW through the end of TBC was more of a stay alive and you will win if people are at least par for their gear. This made sense as the raids only offered a single difficulty. With the multiple difficulties now offered we definitely need to have varying levels of performance required and I think we have just that.
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OR, you could use a meter to monitor your output and tune your character to improve, which by the way is the objective of a game focused on PROGRESSION.
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People just don’t understand where we get our powers from gear and if people are under geared and in turn low DPS and yet people who uses the meter will blame the player for not doing enough and bam kicked for not doing enough. People should really know how we get our powers from before determining our performances.
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This is incorrect. People who do this are uninformed, but people being uninformed doesn’t mean the tool should be removed from people who, again, know how to use one and are using it correctly.
WoW is all about information. Everything you do, every boss you kill, every arena match you play, hell the time of your sessions can all be found on third party websites. Even if dmg meters were removed, we’d still have that information.
A tool is just that. There’s no reason to remove it.
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Blizzard can very easily lock all of it and render those sites useless.
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Anyone with half a braincell won’t get on a 240 ilvl’s back for being gapped by a 278 ilvl.
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