Giving undead to the Alliance defeats the whole point of the Forsaken being Forsaken from their Alliance allies.
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I thought it was dumb. Still do.
And it doesn’t make lore sense. It took everything they had to raise Calia. There isn’t an army of Undead Light folks running around.
And they looked exactly like Undead. Except they had shiny crap on their body and yellow eyes.
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it is not, is a lame ideia, still b afle me how people would want to play with this, literally go against every fantasy of being a “undead” a zombie
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Lightbound undead are a mistake
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Blood Elves have been a thing since WC3. Try again.
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No way, it’d be another waste of a race slot.
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No, it did not. Death magic is an offshoot of fel magic and shadow magic created by demons. The Lich King is a Legion creation, as is the the scourge and undeath as we see it in WoW. Light has always been shown to be painful and harmful to the undead, forsaken priests are just selfless enough to endure the pain to help others.
So what Calia tells me is that a Naaru used either fel or shadow magic with their own Light magic to still create undeath which should go against everything they say the Light is for or does.
We have spent over a decade being told by every righteous and goody goody character, and even many of the forsaken themselves that undeath is a curse, a burden, and something they wouldnt wish on their worst enemy.
But now Sylvanas is going about doing it willy nilly and even the Leader of the Alliance and a Naaru decided to get in on it. The whole thing, like many aspects of the BfA story, just feel more like drunken fanfiction than actual story telling.
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Undead already work for the Alliance.
Besides, it makes as much sense as Thrall’s Horde adopting the Forsaken in the first place.
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Having two light-forged races on the Alliance would be redundant, making this unlikely. Let alone the lore reasons for why only a select few strong-willed undead have ever messed with the light.
See any trolls, Gilnean humans, Kul’tiran humans, Tauren, Highmountain Tauren. They’re not literally the same thing. If they were, there would be no distinction possible.
Although, that does remind me of the Highborne (Shen’dralar, etc.). They have used arcane Magic’s for thousands of years… This is supposed to modify the body/shape of the Highborne in ways similar to what happened to the HighElves. The Alliance (Night Elves) accepted them back post Cataclysm. I suppose that could be an Allied Race or a customization option for NE.*
*I don’t know if this was ever redacted/retconned. The story has changed so much it gets… confusing for me sometimes. Discussions about Highborne are also confusing because Highborne is Quel’dorei in Darnassian which now is usually interpreted as High Elves which are separate from the Highborne.
Apologies. I misunderstood. High Elves have, however, remained allied with the Alliance (even if you want the delineation to be political only). Blood Elves have never been a part of the Alliance (as a whole, I’m not sure where Valeera Sanguinar fits. I guess she claims to be neutral, but she’s with the Alliance a lot because of her allegiance to Varian.
As an aside, I’m unlikely to further respond to the debate of High Elves and Blood Elves being separate or the same. I’ll mark it as a difference in opinion.
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Example, please? I know they work for a number of neutral groups but cant think of any directly helping the Alliance.
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We don’t know by which circumstance these light based undead would even be added. Maybe they’re Horde.
I think it could work out, story wise, if it were a combined effort to help already existing Forsaken become purified with the Light without dying/vaporizing on a volunteer basis (similar to the Forsaken/human family meetup turned shoot out by Sylvanas).
Do Alliance actually want undead? I didn’t even know this was a thing?
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During the “dead” period, of prepatch, when everyone was waiting for BFA, the Alliance was active in GD for wanting:
LF Undead
LF Orcs
Tauren
Forest Trolls
Often you would see all of these threads on the front page of the forums at the same time.
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Well considering Blizzard already has a lighbound undead, go figure.
It took way too much out of Anduin and even the Naaru to create a single mary sue special case for them to be offering it up as a service. Even Faol said its unlikely such a “miracle” could be done easily again.
Im still, personally, disgusted by the whole concept for the reasons I stated before. They are actually trying to turn the suffering that is being a Forsaken, a rotting husk held together by magic, into something they want to hand out to people. Next they might as well tell us Deathwing is back and is selling flowers and helping to heal the world.
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My guess is you make her the next Lich Queen and she can raise an army of lightbound undead.
We were?
An undead race that wasn’t re-colored Forsaken human-only zombies would have been interesting. Lightbound undead just seem lazy. How can I die a million times but Calia Menethil couldn’t get a rez?
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He’s probably talking about my Alliance brothers and sisters.
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