Lfr hits a new low

[Vixie-burning-blade (Vixie)]

That was our second attempt. Icon on tank, follow as best you can while trying to dps the boss. Hey, same as Wrath time when the raid was current. I never really learned where to run and stop. Raid had markers on the spots back then.

But this event was just a encapsulated moment of the boss fights. Not long enough to learn/teach anything. Nothing like wiping and trying again 3490648398 times like back in the day. Of course you learn it when you do the same thing over and over and over again. But 10 years later, I forgot.

But to expect that kind of deep understanding of the different boss mechanics from 3 different xpacs is kinda stupid. The OP is beyond elitist to the realm of unreasonable. Expecting people who started yesterday to “know” a specific fight from a raid 10 years ago and perform perfectly is asinine. What research are you expecting them to do anyway? We didn’t know which boss showed up in the event - I didn’t, was told to go see Chromie so off I went. Less than an hour later…30 minutes? got my mount.

This event was just a drive-by glimpse. It was pretty fun nonetheless.

[Ukhu-lightninghoof (Ukhu)]

Not everyone remember theses mechanics from 11 years ago.

[Lohnarin-thrall]

I did naxx when it was current, actually was in my server’s #1 guild.

In the lfr I wiped my first attempt. I certainly don’t remember every boss’s mechanics from a decade ago

[Uncommitted-khazgoroth]

The secret is to do it with your guild (and a few others). My guildies are competent (although I’m not)

[Pänic-blackrock (Pänic)]

@Ravantha-wyrmrest-accord

I watched this in disbelief as my entire raid wiped while I, a lone dps, was at the right spot.

WOW! You’re so cool!

Some people didn’t PvE during those xpacs.

From BC up to cata, all I did was PvP. I PvE’d in Vanilla in my friend’s guild for MC and BWL but I had no idea what was going on since I was healing and only listened to RL callouts. Since the mechanics were never explained to me, I never understood why particular callouts were made, I just did them.

Once LFR came out, I tried it out because it was a low risk opportunity to see if I was actually good enough to raid. Since my vanilla experience told me I had zero idea what was going on, I didn’t have the confidence to raid until I did LFR and put up good numbers while avoiding bad mechanics.

Without LFR, I’d probably still only be PvPing or I would have quit once I was bored of it.

[Chïntzy-aerie-peak]

Why would you expect people to know mechanics from bosses that they would have been 1 shotting for years for mog?

[Rètallica-thrall]

Ugh brings back memories of Professor Putricide the pug breaker.

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

Durumu was highly amusing all the way to the end of MoP.

[Razark-kilrogg]

You actually expect people not to wipe on safety dance? Of course people will wipe. That mechanic is poorly designed.

[Smoketoes-illidan]

@Omniscience-lightnings-blade

If they weren’t around in Vanilla or Wrath why would you think they would know the fight? Cut some people some slack. We’re not all elites like you are. >_>

I don’t mean to get all “back in my day” on you. But there used to be a time where people would look up fights before they did them so they would have an idea of what was going to happen.

[Vixie-burning-blade (Vixie)]

This too. I killed Rag and Firelands a lot last year or year before for the staff-mount, all the other mounts in there. Naxx for the pets and some other farm. LK for the stupid mount (which he still won’t give me).

All these raids are faceroll for us now - we just walk in, beat it up and leave. To have to face the old “real” mechanics was not even really expected. I only heard about things bugging out on Tues, went on Wed.

@Smoketoes-illidan

But there used to be a time where people would look up fights before they did them so they would have an idea of what was going to happen.

Who researches one time holiday events?

[Uncommitted-khazgoroth]

@Rankin-shandris

Durumu

Still gives me nightmares.

[Kneeshooter-amanthul (Kneeshooter)]

Just a further comment OP - one of the other people commented to the effect that these fights are a “snapshot” of the real thing, and that’s a very clever description of what it is. It’s not a current high level raid, it’s not something long and involving - at most the fights take about 5 minutes and only take longer when they wipe. Which they will do when people who have never done them (or havent done them for years) are involved. Any event where you get thrown in to a fight that starts the moment you appear and has unexpected techniques is bound to create a degree of chaos.

It isn’t LFR. It’s a special event with a series of very small glimpses of old raid fights. That’s all. It is seriously not a big deal in my possibly not very humble opinion.

[Smoketoes-illidan]

@Vixie-burning-blade

Who researches one time holiday events?

If I’m going to be grouping up with other people, I will.

Personally, I think it’s a matter of respect. I respect that other people are spending what little time they have trying to get this done. So, I’ll at the bare minimum try to be prepared. And truthfully, yes, it does miff me a little when people can’t at least try to have an idea of what’s going on.

[Blasco-malganis]

LFR difficulty teaches players to be bad; like really really bad. As in, they could learn the game, but didn’t, because the game never showed them any adversity so that they’d know any better. I’m certain a good chunk of them hardly use keybinds or look up what any of the bosses do. Again, stuff anyone can do, but don’t because they’re rewarded regardless.

This creates a problem for boss tuning. The boss can’t have meaningful mechanics because players will wipe in them, so the boss has no meaningful mechanics and more new players grow reliant on that.

[Arshia-alexstrasza]

@Ravantha-wyrmrest-accord

but you would expect people would know of decade old mechanics and bosses

not if they never played it when it was current and just lolstomped heigan at level 90 for a mog run.

[Puntahunta-caelestrasz]

@Glacios-nemesis

First, There was no LFR in WotLK, so, the raids was not made for this.
Second, many people never played the game at that time (including me. I started to play in Pandaria). So, there a loot of people doing it for the first time.

So, how do you expect this people already know something they never played before and that never was created to suport LFR dificult?

its called doing your research before you submit other people to your lack of knowledge. plenty of explanations of the fight out there

[Wolfsheart-moon-guard]

The players who did this back then mostly remember the mechanics but safe to say those who are doing the LFR either weren’t doing it as current or they are newer players.

For example though I started in Wrath I didn’t raid back then when it was current I didn’t start raiding until MOP when DKs were good tanks in blood then from WOD until now I only do it if I can solo it so I died a lot to the mechanics because I never raided back then.

Wasn’t until I logged my Horde was I able to do the event so in that Horde is better at raiding but to say people would know decade old mechanics and bosses is wrong most players from then are gone.

[Stabyaman-area-52]

I guess even vanilla mechanics are just too much for your average LFR brainlet huh?

[Razark-kilrogg]

Unless you run the raid you wont know anything thats going on. Watching some YouTube video wont change that. The video only shows one man’s perspective and just because that one man had one type of run does not mean you will have the same type. Things happen, people need to experience first hand what the fights are like. Thats how it is.