LFR Gallywix has too much health

[Grubblenuts-emerald-dream]

Sylvannas lfr was easily the worst from my experience

[Grubblenuts-emerald-dream]

Also he stole my girlfriend, so theres thst

[Elmyouu-velen]

So just looking at a random LFR log,

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Br91mQAT7wjykKXt?fight=last&type=damage-done

I think the reason why is people do not realize they should cast a spell every second, or global. Most have about 30 casts per minute, which means that if people were pressing their spells faster, they would do about twice as much damage and the boss would die twice as fast.

[Zenetta-proudmoore (Zenetta)]

I was actually surprised how easy they made it considering it drops a mount.

In DF they made LFR work a lot harder for the mount appearance, at least in the first season.

Rasz in the first weeks sometimes got near 20 determination stacks before some groups could do it.

[Oortaelia-turalyon]

I just didn’t understand that, doing the trash mob is faster than attempting to skip with 99% of pug LFR groups.

[Tyriel-moon-guard]

Only fought him once and a lot of others admitted to being first timers too. The bombs were destroying us - got up to 8 determination. For me, I’ll admit I did not know what to do for the first one, and the second I could not get to the drop off spot w/o getting killed, so I took one for the team and jumped over the side. Once we got past that it was smooth sailing, of course all those stacks of determination might have come into play.

[Azeriter-area-52]

@Thdora-rexxar

Alright you first dozen or so comments, out with it so I can ignore you and have a real discussion.

OK so LFR Gally is either too tanky, or the minimum iLVL requirement is too low. Coupled with the fact you can game the system and get in at any iLVL, seen a 540 iLVL in there, it’s a little too ‘hard’.

Your average 606 iLVL player, the actual minimum, with no tier sets, no good trinkets, no enchants, just barely enough iLVL to get in, they are going to be doing around 5-600K DPS give or take depending on player.

Gally on LFR has over 5 billion health, if you are averaging 500K DPS per 18 DPS, assume healers do nothing, and tanks do 500K combined which according to my last DPS meter was more than what both tanks actually did combined, but let’s be nice.

That’s 9.5M DPS overall.

You are now looking at, for an average group, around 9 minutes to clear one boss. And that is assuming they all stay alive and even do that much.

Now you are going to tell be “But what about those who do more damage?”

Ok, you get half a dozen maybe who do 1M, but on the flip side you also get half a dozen dead in each queue, maybe more. I’ve had some fights that go past 10 minutes, which is less than 500K per player on average.

Add in those who are less than the minimum iLVL, those who do less than 500K because it’s LFR and why not, I routinely do more damage at 600 iLVL than players at 630+. Not saying I am that good, but seeing people AFK, seeing people who have their top DPS as the Circe ring, it’s all just a recipe for disaster.

I can’t remember the last time I had determination stacks, but earlier I got up to 4 and we still struggled. Something needs to change, and it won’t be the players attitude towards it either.

your joking right? LFR gally dies quick

[Toshindo-shadow-council]

To be blunt, there’s no reason for a 606 ilvl player to be in there. Veteran starts at 623, and the drops are 632 veteran from him, if I remember right. At the absolute minimum it should probably be 619.

[Veidmann-zuljin]

Really isn’t that bad.
1: Don’t stand in AOEs
2: If bomb on you get out of group
3: If line on you don’t move just let others move because they already will
4: If range get on adds until they are down .
5: Finally most important of all " DON’T TUNNEL VISION BOSS" beware of surroundings.

[Brewa-hyjal]

@Thdora-rexxar

You are now looking at, for an average group, around 9 minutes to clear one boss.

Okay.

…so?

Our first Heroic kill was a little over 8 minutes, and that was with a coordinated group.

[Grubblenuts-emerald-dream]

I wish that were the case, wasted at least 15 min on that mob. Why are people so adamant on skipping that mob in lfr?

[Felpickle-illidan]

Lmao this is hilarious ty. Funny post good job

[Voidarcane-whisperwind]

Have you ever considered the LFR player’s don’t have enough damage?

[Jamak-saurfang]

comparted to past end raid bosses hes a pice of cake.

hell, i have done glory runs and got to him 2 weeks in a row (doing a 3ed to tonight)

[Grizzle-eredar]

@Thdora-rexxar

OK so LFR Gally is either too tanky, or the minimum iLVL requirement is too low

Or…the players in it just aren’t good enough? I mean that’s always the most obvious option

[Kentaurus-turalyon (Kentaurus)]

As far as boss health goes it’s really not that bad. I can think of at least 3-4 different end of raid bosses that had far more health and were far more of a pain to fight with random people in LFR. He’s pretty easy all around, to be honest. Not every boss needs to melt like Sarkareth did in the first week of LFR. I remember my first kill for him and was left thinking “Wait, was that really it?”

[Beefvindaloo-shandris]

You never did the sylvanus or the raszagath fight did you?

[Slotmachine-sargeras]

I down him no problems, i was there for the quest

[Zemus-hyjal]

@Thdora-rexxar

Now you are going to tell be “But what about those who do more damage?”

Very rarely is LFR ever completely full of minimally geared players. They should also be doing more than 500k at 606.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

@Thdora-rexxar

Coupled with the fact you can game the system and get in at any iLVL, seen a 540 iLVL in there, it’s a little too ‘hard’.

This is part of why vote kick was implemented.

But also, this means that when the heroic/mythic geared raiders/M+ers show up to carry the run, maybe don’t complain on the forums if the need on loot?