LFG / No LFG, Lets meet in the middle

What happens if you don’t use the add-on? You don’t get invited to pugs and guilds. You don’t have a realistic choice to not use it when most groups require a gear score link. Not difficult to understand.

No one kicks you out of guilds for not having add-ons.

Thats a ridiculous notion.

Now if you refuse to install an addon that helps you learn mechanics, do not know mechanics yourself and often die and cause problems because you refuse to learn and constantly mess up.

Then that’s not the add-ons fault, that’s your own fault.

The add-ons are not what make the game work, they help people be able to meet the bare minimum.

We have people in my guild that raid without addons, they respond a little bit slower to things, sure, but they went out of their way to know what they are looking for and handle things.

Also guild does call-outs for mechanics as well.

I think the only addon my guild really wants you to have is a threat meter, so you don’t death chain the entire raid by pulling threat. :woman_shrugging:

the tools of the game are not the cause of your problems. Stop trying to scape goat them.

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nah we have logs now

Itll be there at launch day. Cope and seethe.

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Provide all the options, let the free market decide. If everyone still uses LFD that means your idea isn’t supported by the market.

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And for anyone that quits because a lfd tool was added has something loose anyway. That means that there wpuld be very few. And the game would be better if they did leave. A tool that matches players and allows them to do group content together. Yeah. That tool formed a group but those ppl think setting alone, in a video game, with hundreds of other player and typimg lfm in trade chat. Lets see, play in a group with other players or set alone and type. Which one hurts the player to player interaction and which promotes it.

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Which should tell you all you need to know. Everyone else is using it and enjoying it. Except you. But you want everyone else to do it your way.

Its pretty obvious. This game is not for you. Go back to retail.

Go back to retail where LFD exists? Lmfao. I haven’t played retail since cataclysm, I quit due to garbage like LFD. LFR at the end of cataclysm was the last straw.

Go see how many downvotes pro LFD posts got pre classic release. None of the core classic audience wants it.

Cant wait for LFD, sooner the better.

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Make your own pug.

Find a guild that doesn’t use it or make your own. My guild isn’t using it.

This word does not mean what you think it means.

Wrong again. The core classic audience mostlly quit. Those that remain have made it very clear that #nochanges did not turn out to be the best thing for the game. They unanimously agreed that #some changes was a better approach and agreed with blizz on this.

Retail has more than lfd. It has mythic dungeons. They basically replaced heroic dungeons. You have to form your own group or be accepted into one. Then everyone has to travel to the dungeon and enter through the dungeon entrance. It is exactly what you are asking for. So i will say it again. Go back to retail. You are asking for features that exist in retail. Ohhh wow. Shocker. You mean every change that happened after classic did not ruin the game? How can that be. But but but all of the streamers told you that change was bad.

Figure it out yourself. You did not leqve wow because of a lfd tool. You think you did. But you didnt.

“Clever wordplay” to ignore the fact that during the second half of the expansion, you might have quit playing, but thousands didn’t, since Wrath saw an increase in players all the way through.

LFD was a significant part of the Wrath zeitgeist because it was present for nearly half the expansion, even if you personally didn’t care for the year of 2010.

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Some show the chart with the dip at cata.

Pretty picture. NO data do indicate why lost “sales”. was it LFD. Or was it cata?

Survey time…for only subs at that time. to include people who never came back. we must know why. LFD or world ending dragon or Cata’s other changes.

I means since we are playing with loose data LFD started the ball rolling I could argue no it wasn’t.

It was human hunters. they were added in cata. Coincidence? I think not! Something goes wrong…blame a hunter. the basis to wow for years lol.

LFD is one of the worst things that ever happened to WoW, maybe THE worst.

The game became progressively anti-social from the end of WotLK.

If you are too dim to understand why it was so bad, you don’t really understand the MMORPG genre.

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Primary reason was that the “old world” was ripped up and replaced with a more streamlined but less invested levelling process.

Maybe so in 2005 to 2010.

its 2022.

LFG is a very odd definition of social.

ZA ads mostly asking you can run the place like a champ. Great if you can but what of the noobs?

Those seeking attunement better scrape up a few hundred gold. Avg price I see is 50 gold a run. Not a lot of freebies out there.

Now some recent returns seem to be out so if you need Normal ramparts you may get those runs. Maybe they work up to other dungeons to get some free attunements. Time will tell.

Now from my day 1 start to leaving to back again I can say warlocks got nicer. the 15 gold summons are less these days. You can get free summons. If, you know, the dungeon crew has a lock.

edit: all this based on atiesh and mankrik lfg. If others better/worse I don’t know. also my tz. if 2100 is better for East coast US players I’d not know tbh.

your post is utterly incomprehensible

Current LFG is paid runs. and very selective requirements for even basic content.

If this what social to some like yours definition is it won’t be missed in lfd. Its probably what helped lfd take off really.

“scrub” players will find other “scrubs” to run dungeon x. Not needing gold. By an unbiased matchmaker. the scrub tank, the scrub healer and 3 scrub dps that can’t make player based cutoffs in lfg will finally have a dungeon run.

it may be ugly…but they will have it.

How can a player “git gud” if lfg won’t pick them to play the dungeon? the interesting catch 22 lfg created. The catch 22 lfd fixed.

I seriously don’t know wtf you are talking about.

I levelled up recently in TBCC and while levelling I ran a handful of dungeons. In these dungeons I made friends with people who I play with now, at level 70.

This kind of occurrence would not be possible with the addition of LFD.

LFD was in WOTLK, therefore you will have to deal with it. If you don’t like it, feel free to make groups manually.