LFG this days is either multi-glads only inviting other multi-glads even at lower rating, multi-glads selling carries (who is buying carries for a game that barely anyone is playing), and then 200 cr players who don’t have a healer friend. The middle class is dead. I end up playing against glads anyway no matter the bracket.
I keep thinking there are other games with millions of players and a experience gradient for all levels and devs that put all of their effort into pvp, and I’m playing an abandoned mini game I wow with less players than most indy steam games.
I truly wish the devs cared enough to make pvp and lfg a thing again.
I honestly can’t be bothered with 3’s it’s the worst bracket in the game. I’m glad they introduced shuffle so I can just play the game.
LFG is the most outdated awful tool. The community is also just completely awful to the point devs are too afraid to interact with them. I imagine they prob just want to let PvP die slowly and focus on their new housing audience.
Funny cause I was getting spam declined by rival players for not having same cr when I started grinding it out. All the mglads are ruining the game though fosho
Solo queue is the most fair and honest way to climb in modern times. 3s should just become legacy content and shuffle the main bracket. Shuffle already is the main bracket when it comes to unique players and activity tho.
This is why if you don’t have a roster of players you gotta que the season before you want to push or que right at the beginning.
Is the middle class dead? Yeah, I can agree with that. Playing arenas in cata or mop or even warlords to now; there is a huge difference in skill. Most people you face have gotten glad multiple times at all mmrs.
I will say the game is far less elitest. Gone are the “link your achievement” days that use to exist. People will invite you purely off your cr and give you a try now.
LFG feels increasingly outdated for modern PvP.
Most competitive games today rely on accessible solo‑queue systems, and WoW’s Ranked Solo Shuffle clearly shows how much players prefer that structure. Despite this, WoW still places its primary prestige reward — the Gladiator title and flying mount — exclusively in 3v3.
Meanwhile, Shuffle has become the most‑played rated bracket by a wide margin, including among high‑level players and content creators.
It’s rare to see major PvP streamers consistently queuing 3v3 outside of coordinated team play. The issue is simple: most players don’t have stable partners for 3v3, and LFG doesn’t reliably solve that problem.
Shuffle succeeds because it removes the social and logistical barriers that prevent people from playing.
Many players on the forums argue that Gladiator should remain exclusive to 3v3 to preserve its prestige. I understand that perspective — but it also highlights the tension between tradition and the reality of how people actually play the game today.
My concern is that keeping the top reward locked behind a format with declining participation creates a disconnect between the game’s design and the community’s behavior. If Shuffle is the primary rated mode for most players, it seems reasonable to discuss whether it should eventually receive its own high‑end reward structure.
I expect strong opinions on this topic, but I think it’s a conversation worth having.