LFG isn't an Addon, It's an Exploit!

I think most people who are upset about this addon don’t understand how it works or what it does.

It does not automate group selection, it does not teleport you to the dungeon, it doesn’t remove any aspect of the community. Literally all it does is parse chat for key phrases like “LFG”, and centralizes the location of that information. The only thing it does is remove the need to stare at chat channels that are often flooded with non grouping related chat content. It’s just a chat addon.

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Everyone who doesn’t want the game to be ruined and end up like Retail. Blizzard is trying to recreate a game for players that find Retail unplayable. Classic is for people that can’t stand these things in the game. If Classic ends up like Retail then what is the point of playing? So we have to care or this will be a slippery slope and just end up with another version of the game that is also unplayable.

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Similar yes, but also different. There’s so many logistics in Classic that creating the group is just one. Still have to travel to the instance, clear to it, and then clear the instance it self and leave.

As someone who almost always makes the groups, this is a godsend to me. It just sucks when you don’t get replies in chat because people aren’t paying attention, it gets drowned out by all the other chat, people aren’t in the correct channels, might log on right after a /4 message, so many things that prevent groups from forming.

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Not to mention it’s gonna be mostly dps. Healers and tanks aren’t gonna bother with this anyways. So you still have to recruit the old-fashioned way.

In claasic not everyone need the same thing at the exact moment and time you need it. This is also a danger for future runs. Many time in classic a year after the fact. People runnimg their alts or trying a more enjoyable class would spam such things for hours on end. Friendship were forged then even after so long.

Sure at the start you will see plenty of groups forming because the mass majority are doing it together. It migjt not take that long but people level at different paces and thats where the social aspect of waiting comes in.

The lfg removes that.

It’s gonna be a big-0-pile of dps. Healers and tanks have very little reason to use this. So you got 3 dps together. So furking what?

You’ll notice that if you level in groups, especially on the same server, you’ll recognize names. Even if the groups are random you’ll still see 1 or 2 players that level at your pace consistently in dungeon runs.

Add those people to your friends list and it makes group forming 10x easier too.

Just don’t use the addon. Problem solved.

They can ban or not ban it. It will make zero difference to me.

Monday at 6pm can’t get here fast enough.

Lol so you do know someone can make a website outside the game and achieve the same thing in like 5 mins…someone can also have a discord channel for the server in less than 5 mins and achieve the same thing. People will find a way and you or blizzard cant do ANYTHING ABOUT IT. lol.

Enjoy your day

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That’s not entirely possible. People’s actions don’t occur in a vacuum when playing an mmo. I see nothing wrong with the addon functioning as the premade group finder does in retail (like a bulletin board). However I do recognize that it takes focus away from the social structure that should exist for guilds.

Sure, it adds convenience for the person assembling the group, but it also makes it easier to decline people with no social interaction, which is not in the spirit of what Classic WoW is trying to achieve, which is recreating the Vanilla experience. And if we say for the sake of convenience that this addon should be allowed where do we draw the line? What standard do we hold to to maintain a Vanilla feel and what do we sacrifice that brings us further from the Vanilla experience. You might say this addon is enough, but the next human warrior might want to take it one step further. And then another step forward. And so and so forth. Those who don’t want this addon allowed don’t want the goal posts moved for what should be allowed in Classic that takes away from what Classic is trying to accomplish.

I agree - I can’t believe what a gang of chicken littles that have descended onto the forums to complain about an addon that none of them intend to use. Heaven forbid that anyone else use it either. These people should seek professional help.

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It’s entirely possible to not use an addon.

See you start off your very first sentence with an incorrect statement so any conclusions drawn from this are inherently incorrect as well.

You confused

Exploit - make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource).

VS

Exploit - a software tool designed to take advantage of a flaw in a computer system,

In this case, the LFG tool is taking full advantage of the API provided by Blizzard.

Blizzard can change how the API works at anytime if they don’t intend for the desired behaviour.

I’d stop wasting so much effort crying about something that will most likely get fixed when the servers f’ing launch.

edit: For clarification, i don’t agree with the LFG tool and Blizzard will most likely get rid of it but dame people sure as hell got their panties in a bunch over this.

You seem to forget the PvP addons that basically did the same thing… They were allowed just fine back then lol…

The API has been there since vanilla, and as long as the API allows for LUA to parse text, there’s always going to be a way to make this addon.

Put on a long enough timeline, vanilla would have had LFG as well…

My only issue with this, is the automated messages you can set it up to do, but this isn’t going to be gamebreaking to me. HOWEVER, my key issue with this is that it shows your talents, which no one else should be able to see.

Blue post from awhile back:

Blizzard

Q. Will there be an Armory for WoW Classic?

A. There was no Armory for World of Warcraft until the Burning Crusade. If you wanted to know more about a player’s gear before you invited them to your party, you had to meet them in the world and physically inspect them (and you couldn’t inspect players of the opposite faction until 2.4). You couldn’t see their spec or talent builds when you inspected them, either. To maintain that same dynamic, we won’t have an Armory or profile pages for WoW Classic at launch.

Its entirely possible to not use weakauras, raider io, TSM, DBM/bigwigs, etc.

But how far do you think people can progress in retail without such tools? Don’t be naive.

I’ve told people no many a times. It doesn’t hurt any less being declined versus someone saying no thanks to you joining their group.

Game playing addons. The Auto invite could be considered this, but the bulletin board is just a word spreadsheet mainly.

Remove the tinfoil hat please.

Again, it doesn’t play the game for you. You don’t have to download it. You can still find groups the regular way.

Not that simple. If the addon becomes popular, more people will use it. At some point that will start to detrimentally affect those not using the addon and will make group finding harder for those players. At some point, if enough popularity for this addon exists, ultimately you’ll have to use it to stay competitive and get groups. Now if 3% of the populace use it and that all then fine, no real harm done. But as it seeks to add convenience to group making it’s unlikely that it will remain unpopular for long.