Or, “LF1M DPS BRD Arena Spam, Trinket on reserve”. Where in the heck did this practice start where you feel entitled to a specific drop in an instance? If you want to reserve specific loot drops, then run with your guild or group of friends that don’t care that you are an entitled doosh.
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Did it exist in Classic? Yes.
Was it as prominent back then as it is now? No.
Do I agree with loot reservations? No. I wish it would die. But it’s like herpes. its the gift that keeps on giving.
People back then did loot reservations all the time. The difference? They would simply create a group composition that allows no loot competition.
The major difference in today’s players. Their lazy. And instead of staking the deck in their favor when making a group. They just say LFXM X Reserved PST.
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If people agree to it, then they join the group. If they don’t, they go to another.
The only practice that triggers me is:
WTS Tanking services, 20g/dungeon.
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WTS Tanking runs, all blues/greens/greys to tank (need roles on pre-bis okay).
That’s BS. It’s hard as hell to farm as a healer as well. You chose to tank on the tank role, just like I chose to take on healer role. We either have to respec or deal with leveling a farming alt. I’m not passing the cost on to someone else for my choice in game play.
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Back in Wrath, I remember when I discovered the healing trinket set that dropped off Onyxia. For the next 4 MONTHS, I put together PUGs every week to farm the set, I never once put the trinket on reserve. When the other piece finally dropped after 4 months, I had gained such a good reputation on my server that everyone who could have rolled on it passed so I could have it.
That’s how it’s done.
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I have a ‘don’t join, don’t preach’ approach to this.
If you don’t like it (and I don’t either) you don’t have to join. And a lot of other people probably won’t join that group either. But I disagree with trying to tell someone what they can / can’t allow in a group that they are forming. If the guy ends up spamming for an hour and can’t find enough interest, they’ll either give up or alter their stipulation.
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Buddy, start getting used to the fact you need to pay tanks. Let tanks get items they want, let tanks reserve stuff, and reserve rare loot and patterns. They dont want to tank for tools and need to get paid to waste their time for you.
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Yea well I’m thinking about taking a join but roll anyway approach.
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If they are looking for a tank and healer while reserving an item, they will be waiting a while. Does reserving happen? Yep. Has it happened almost since launch? Yep. Personally, regardless of the role I am in or character I am on, I would never pug with a group who reserved anything. If they are that loot blinded before the run, you are just looking at a long and painful experience as they decide they want other things as they go along.
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Where did this practice start when you feel entitled to call someone else for feeling entitled to something?
If I make a group, I can even decide to select master loot. Nobody has to join my group. Heck, I could even go so far as to:
“LF4M BRD Arena Spam - All loot is mine”
Don’t like it? Tough.
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None of you have any reason to complain. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. Simple as that.
Mages can charge for water which including the trade is a 15 second process, or charge for ports which is making back the cost of the reagent and then some, but god forbid a tank who really has no reason to spend 30 minutes to an hour in a dungeon charges for his service.
Either cough up the gold, give up the boe’s or roll a tank and run the bloody thing yourselves.
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It’s fine, it’s their group, they made it known up front, if you don’t like it or want the reserved item you know not to join the group.
Hope you have fun once you have a Classic character.
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It’s toxic, entitled behavior, but you do you.
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That’s funny. I’ve been playing this game for 15 years and never once ever payed for a tank.
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Saying that doesn’t make it true.
Look, personally, I roll a warrior, and greatly like other warriors. I tend to run the same instance enough, and I’m actually more concerned with my familiarity with the instance, and comfort with my ability to play than just loot, so I don’t personally run instances where I reserve things.
If I did, or wanted to, an easy way to do so without being explicit about it would be to only bring classes who won’t need what I need. I’m not sure if that would be better. Also, not something I personally tend to do.
If people want to do that though, that’s fine with me. If you want to run a group, and make the rules you feel comfortable with for that group, go ahead. I don’t feel threatened nor resentful. I’m certainly not going to call you names, or write a post on the forums to let people know that I have negative feelings towards this kind of behavior.
In my opinion, trying to force your ideas of how others should play is much more toxic (if anything is).
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Don’t join and move on.
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Same. Nor have I ever changed charged to tank. I have also never once payed for water, nor a mage portal, though, so take that with a grain of salt.
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While I would love to see that scenario play out. I think you’ll end up doing more damage to yourself than the group leader.
As we’re seeing from the replies, other people don’t like this practice either. But, other people also may not like grouping with someone who agrees to the rules and then reneges during the run. You may end up with a bad rep, and it won’t stop this practice either.
EDIT: Clarified a point.
If people would stop joining their groups it would come to an end, but some people are ok with being someone elses floormat so it continues.
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I have organized and led many BRD groups where I advertised that HoJ is on reserve. It lets people clearly know your intentions and prevents people who don’t know their class itemization from needing on bis (I saw a warlock win HoJ because they didn’t have any trinkets).
I’ve noticed the only people who complain are either potential ninjas, or people who themselves feel entitled to a spot in your run.
If you don’t like it, spend the time and effort organizing your own group.
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Google: Freedom of association
If you don’t like it, don’t join the group. It’s truly not a big deal.
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