Except that your warrior can’t pull as much if you have to keep popping out of shadow form to heal them (which is super Mana inefficient). I’d totally agree with you if the priest was leveling solo. You are right about one thing, there simply is no argument to be had because it’s just flatly more inefficient to try and go shadow.
Also, good luck with wanding to get the kill to proc spirit tap while the warrior is executing. And if they let you get the spirit tap and just move on to another mob you’ll soon find yourself debating if you should pop out and heal, or cast that mindblast before wanding to get your next spirit tap.
Believe me… I’ve tried it both ways leveling in vanilla.
Yeah it’s not going to be any easier than it already is, though you will be able to carry groups that don’t quite meet the level requirement of the dungeon.
Do you enjoy being wrong? Or is this just happening organically. Either way keep it up this is super entertaining seeing all you vanilla experts acting like you know what you’re talking about lol. Go ahead and ask any priest who played vanilla what spec they went in a group and I’ll wait here laughing.
Oh and inb4 “I did it in vanilla”. I meant competent players who actually played optimally. Obviously you have never been that.
If you’re doing it for fun that’s one thing, but we are speaking optimal here.
With a Warrior to hide behind, feel free to level as any type of Priest
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Seeing as how you didn’t address any of my points but decided to try and mock and belittle me, I’ll rest my arguments on the merits. You obviously don’t agree, and that’s fine. I don’t need to convince you, but hopefully the OP finds my comments helpful.
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Chill dude, you’re bordering on abuse per tos. Seems like you’re on an ego trip or something… Also, I don’t think you understand what the other guy is saying.
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You don’t heal as good as a Holy Priest if you’re Shadow. You heal well enough in Shadow spec, but you don’t have any healing potency talents nor would you take them. A Holy Priest can save a wipe easier than a Shadow Priest can. Shadow does more damage (in Shadowform), but Holy has good smite talents, which is why it’s a decent leveling spec all the way to 60 - and better sub 45.
Mind Flay isn’t worth it until rank 3, and it’s better to hold off on respeccing to full Shadow until 45 - so you can pick up Shadowform (which escalates Shadow into being more damage and tankier) and Imp. Wand Spec, which is a large portion of your damage from the first wand to endgame. But from 1-40, Holy with Imp. Wand Spec and Spirit Tap (getting 2~ points into ST and then maxing Wand Spec is better) is the faster and safer leveling spec.
More potent heals = lower ranks needed = faster/more efficient heals. You also have talents that make the tank more durable, make your casts faster, make them cost less mana…
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Best thing I’ve read on here in awhile.
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It’s funny because of the irony of it.
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I think he means it’s funny because you’re wrong and that’s a funny way to phrase it.
Leveling as shadow is king in every aspect.
Again, if you’re leveling solo I agree. There’s a reason that warriors in PvP are looking for pocket healers rather than pocket shadow priests.
Lol yeah, for end game pvp yeah. There’s also a reason raids want healing priests to heal. But that doesn’t seem to be the subject, I believe the subject is leveling.
Shadow wins. Solo, or grouped
Be sure to pick up the Improved Wand talent (if it’s available, can’t remember, priested in BC). You WILL be wanding things to death!
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Absolutely terrible idea, but Vanilla isn’t about doing what everyone else does anyway. Have fun and heal the crap out of stuff
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I wouldn’t level as holy especially on a pvp server. Shadow can heal any dungeon leveling, with spirit tap and wand spec it’s mana efficient while leveling ,and you will kill most classes with ease. Shadow is a blast enjoy it while you can.
Leveling, yep. A priest and a warrior are leveling together. We’re talking about maximizing efficiency.
Spirit tap and wand specialization are great…if you get every killing blow.
Warrior does less damage because it can’t pull as many mobs so has less rage. Overall efficiency goes down because priest needs to drink more often because they’re dealing damage and healing. Or, the warrior can eat and the priest can drink because they’re both focusing on damage. But cast those mindflays and mind blasts, try to wand to get your spirit tap… just try it. You may find it’s faster to just suck it up and heal the warrior non-stop, rather than cast your dot damage and fish for spirit taps.
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Yeah except that’s not more efficient sorry bud. You do your standard rotation the whole time. You barely use any mana anyway. Heal the warrior when he needs it or the one quest in each zone where he pulls a lot (happens very seldom) or when you’re doing an elite quest. As a healing priest your just a waste of space doing no damage besides just wand and the warrior doesn’t need to be healed THAT much to where any of your talents will get their full benefit.
If you want to do that then that’s great go for it! It’s just not the most optimal way of doing it. This is standard practice to anyone who knows even the slightest amount about vanilla.
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You mean you don’t fight 3-5 mobs continuously with a warrior and a priest? Think of all the lost cleave/whirlwind aoe lost. Sad.
Yeah and you don’t need a healer for those pulls. Oh you’re bad enough to where you need that?? sad
With a healer you just keep pulling. With a shadow priest it’s inevitable there’s going to be more downtime.