Level 60s in 51-59 Random BGs

These threads went silent quick after the hotfixes.
I would like to know how the recent adjustments went over, Sync players with Shadowlands will know best.
Looks like the major Party Sync Cov outliers (Conduits,Renown?) were redone, hey it looks good to see attention being made once brought to attention.

I mostly synced into the 29 bracket. After the nerf I can’t compete verse the lvl 20 twinks. So I switched to my own lvl 20 twink.

60 syncs in the 51-59 bracket still dominate. The average health for the bracket is 17k. Syncers have 22k.

Outside of Conduits/Renown, not sure since hotfix this week in 51-59.
Would you balance the Sync Template to the low end or the highest?
Characters can become pretty damn powerful before 60, no Sync Template is rocking 25%+ Vers. Trinkets etc.

the average hp is way lower than 17k. i see players leveling through 50 with 8k hp or less. all of them expecting the game to adjust to them being lazy. gear your alts or dont pvp level.

The lowest I have seen was 11k. The average has been about 17k from what I seen. Level 60 syncs need the templates brought down a few to be in line with the average BGer in that bracket. Only characters I seen similar are the alts who had full mythic 15+ from BFA. The average leveler will not catch up unless they turn off exp and run dungeons for days/weeks just to compete for a couple BGs.

It is almost like they would have to balance the Sync Template to be viable vs these characters/possibilities. Especially that Sync requires a premade team, they could end up being completely dead weight in #s.

Alliance are the once taking advantage of this, every BG I do there is at least 4 60s in a 51-59 bracket. There damage don’t scale that will they still hit like trucks. Put the dam 60s in there own bracket Blizzard!

Yes. Levelers usually have low ilvls now that leveling is so fast. I think it’s an issue not specific to bgs. But devs seem to like the idea of levelers having bad gear, so I don’t think they’re going to adjust how often they get new gear.

It’s not unusual to see a leveler with an ilvl 10, 20, or more lower than his level.

But I don’t see expecting levelers to stop leveling and grind twink gear every 5 or 10 levels to be part of the solution.

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Just bring the template down to the median of the brackets. Technology is already there to do it.

You know what’s worst going against level 60s that are premade in a level 40-49 bracket. Who’s dumb idea was it to even add this. Its so dumb and ruins bgs. Level 60 with full pvp gear against people with leveling gear. so fun

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devs now are really bad developing pvp things, but they think its all ok in their pride excess. 60’s in lower lvls bgs , hundreds of bgs to get you gear n stupidly “upgrade” to go into the arena n be smashed by higher geared ppl until you reach them ,but they wil have more because started the season before you and after 6 months of (no fun) grinds of stupid legendaries n borrowed powers to make you fell "stronger n better"lol… the season ends n you will do the same 300 things again , like a tard, this pvp is crap n no fun PvP made for brainless ppl, c’mon you devs did far better in WoD’s PvP , why not use that systems?oh god; the fun of pvp is play against other ppl’s skills … the actual pvp wasnot made to be fun… its makes you slave of a grind system

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yeah sure, the stats of 60’s in the 51-59 bracket are reduced, yeah… but really they DO have HUGE advantage’s of levelers trying to pvp, I mean your average levelers il is going to range from what? 84-134, but you aren’t going to get that 134 mark, when you are leveling its not likely to replace every piece of gear at level 59 for best stat’s/performance and even if you did, but those 60’s coming in will end up being 134, because they are only reduced to 59 and scaled down to the max il a 59 can get. so yes, pvping on a character that’s, lets just say 54. is pretty much just dumb at this point, that road to 59 is going to suck if you are a player that like’s/prefers to level through pvp… there are so many 60’s party sync’ing into this bracket. I love how twink’s was a problem but this is just fine I guess.

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Right, i’d like to know how or why twinking was such a problem and now this crap is going on over and over again, there is NO difference between twinking and 60 party sync, how are they going to do something about people gearing with mythic gear, but nothing about people getting scaled in the bracket to mythic gear IL against people in leveling gear with a normal il, i’ve been playing since 08 and it honestly seems there is so much more broken in this game now than there ever has been. i have ALWAYS leveled in bg’s and its more painful now than ever. guess the only way to fix this is maybe possibly quit paying money to play this game and join up on a private server to a time when the game was actually enjoyable?

you were it gets downscaled but not to the level of people in greens there are always people that just want to think they are special

I was going to write something like that but darn you nailed it

Assuming you’re whining about 51-59, you think lvl 56 greens (ilvl 129) is mythic gear?

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I seriously doubt the devs who worked on wod PvP are still working for Blizzard. Or if they are, they’ve been reassigned and some intern is reworking bgs.

Level 50 bg’s are working great for us. Fast ques and sometimes its pretty competitive.

Thats whats up!! See you in 50!