Level 40. Who will win this meta for dueling?

I don’t know how spriest wins against lock with curse of tongues personally. I mean, CoT + fear + spell lock + drain means most of your toolkit is screwed. His main tool against lock is mana burn + mind blast. Good luck casting that with CoT up + fear + spell lock.

I’ve never really understood what spriest is supposed to do to beat lock.

I mean, doesn’t spellstone remove swp and silence?

I don’t know man. I don’t really play enough BFA to comment.

I just don’t mind RNG being a factor in combat that way as much as I have a problem with it determining rewards from raiding.

I think that raiding needs to be a lot more rewarding relative to the difficulty and time investment.

Trollgodx will win this one. You heard it here first.

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The depends really.

If you were using something like the Rake or an SFK wolf you’d barely notice the difference and even then the attack speed is just good for pushback on spells really

His reward will be … teleportation into the abyss.

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Was there confirmation on pet normalization or not?
Otherwise, BT ftw.

They will have varying attack speeds but lupos won’t be doing shadow damage

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Oh well, at least Broken Tooth is still awesome.

There’s no varying resistance at all is there?

Nope that’s out as well though you can still train for certain school resistance for your pet

I would be so happy to have unique pet stats back. That would really make my damn day.

This is where homogenization began you know?

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I think if we get to see such a thing, it is basically Mage, Warlock, Hunter, Shaman and Shadow Priest on top.

Who beats who is a lengthy discussion.

Lock has no front load if they spec SL at level 40, which they’ll need to be if they want to not get crushed by Mage/Rogue/Warrior/Enhancement. Means their only real source of damage are DoT abilities that can all be dispelled. Spellstone/Shadow Ward are dispelable and Priests will have access to blackout, silence, vampiric embrace, 5/5 shadow weaving (debuff protection), etc. Can literally passive outheal the Lock’s damage with your normal rotation at level 40 no problem.

This is all interesting. Some of this is new to me.

Thinking about this more with access to rocket helm, skull of impending doom, and broken tooth there’s a strong case for BM Hunters taking it.

SL doesn’t work against enhancement.
Spellstone dispels magic doesn’t it?
I don’t think you can realistically outheal DoTs while dispelling both yourself and the lock.
Locks have searing pain and drain mana/life.
It also doesn’t prevent you from getting feared.
Something I didn’t remember is that vampiric embrace is a curse. I actually played spriest too.

I would say spriest is mostly at a disadvantage personally. I think drain mana/life can be devastating.

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Thinking about it a bit more I think it boils down to getting lucky with blackout procs and the Lock getting a stack of shadow weaving vs sw: pain with devours. Didn’t take into account that you won’t have access to disc talents so mana is going to be an issue even without being drained on top of it.

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Yeah, that sounds about right. I think you’ve figured it out.

found you in a week or two in the new duel turny

Why do ppl care? its a beta.
Stop dueling and go tests things ffs.

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Troll go else where please, and I’m not sure if your mad in general or that you didn’t get in the beta. And I was not talking beta. I was talking vanilla in general. And when you play the beta for 8-12 hours I’m sure dueling is fine even to your standards. I’m not in the beta btw. Btw they are testing things as well.