Lets Revisit Why There is a Black Lotus Problem

There were no herbs in AV in actual Vanilla - and I challenge you to prove me wrong with evidence.

Private servers put Lotus in Dire Maul and AV as a way to solve the issue of Black Lotus hoarders.

Blizzard does not have to do the same thing, like at all - their fallback plan for customer retention will be Shadowlands when Naxx launches.

It’s a commodity though, flask aren’t essential for gameplay believe it or not and because of that I wouldn’t hold your breath for blizz to change the black lotus issue to include AV, which funny enough is going off the 1.12 design.

If people stopped caring if they were flasked or not they could drop the bl prices considerably as I know I got more important things to spend 300g on

Also, putting herbs in a bg will only worsen the state of Classic pvp

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Wrong and off point. Do you not want an accurate vanilla experience? This is how the game was, the economy was more balanced then, than it is now 16 years later.

It’s a gross oversight that could have easily been avoided. Instead of telling people how they should play the game, maybe the devs should have delivered an actual vanilla experience?

Stop arguing against the game being more accurate and better, troll.

I have a few questions for you.

  1. How long did you play Nost?
  2. How far did you clear in Nost?
  3. Why haven’t you been farming Black Lotus?
  4. Did you play Classic a lot before Corona Virus, or did you just login to raid and buy Lotus off the AH?
  5. Did you actually play Vanilla? If you did why do you think there was Lotus in AV?
  6. Does your guild award gear based on parse?
  7. Why do you need flasks now?

There is no problem. BL should be rare and not a crutch to make an easy game even easier. People who barely play the game are jealous and want others to suffer, this is why the forums whine about BL prices.

So one of the reasons you wanted to play classic was to pick herbs? I’m pretty sure that’s just supposed to be a side thing you do, not something you dream about.

1.) From close to launch until it was brought down (I had a stack of 200 black lotus)
2.) Was in one of the top guilds there, so everything on farm.
3.) I farm it almost daily, I saw my first lotus in 2 months today, before I saw my last one was 2 months before that.
4.) I play every day, corona has not effect this.
5.) I did, and there was up until the 1.12 version of AV which was the version that was pre-TBC.
6.) No
7.) Tanks will need them in Naxx, casters that want to be competitive use them, as it makes clears smoother and things die faster. People shouldn’t have to farm 5 hours just to be able to afford a consumable that should be readily available.

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I disagree with your points around raiding, but thank you for answering the questions.

Seems your getting upset with all that name calling your doing.

You will never get a vanilla experience again from Classic as this game has been theorycrafted entirely and there are no longer any secrets, unknowns left, etc.

We as players have become much better at the game, we know what stats are good for our classes, we have multiple bis list for every phase and class of the game.

If you wanted a true vanilla experience it would have been in the form of a new game or a total rework of classic. But because the unknown factor is gone along with the amount of theorycrafting already done you won’t ever get a Van experience for classic.

Not to say classic is bad, I enjoy it because of it being more casual friendly and a much more social game then current WoW.

im not sure if you’ve noticed, but most characters on these forums are unrepentant trolls

I want an accurate vanilla experience, if you disagree with anything I said, you are essentially a troll, or just an activision shill, and want a worse version of the game we are here to play.

Farming the lotus in AV was one of the top 3 reason I came to play classic. It was incredibly fun and rewarding. If you know, you know, and if you don’t you are missing out.

That’s a pretty bold statement dude, I’ve been pretty up front with you and honest about my opinions - no reason to resort to name calling to try and be dismissive of my own opinions.

This same thing happened on Nost, by the way.

forum dot nostalrius dot org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=21151

People got upset a little earlier on than they are now, but it all worked out there. The only difference is that more people know how to farm gold so the prices are different.

I haven’t called anyone any names, if you are trolling, you are trolling. If you are arguing against logic and reason, then clearly you are of the same mind of those that do.

Take a long look in the mirror.

You’re being dismissive of my counter points and writing me off as a troll. Please don’t try to claim you speak in the name of logic and fact when you refuse to look at actual evidence that is linked to you - the amount of time it took you to reply proves that you didn’t even check the link I provided.

People min/maxxed the game on Nost and all other private servers at a level beyond what we saw in Vanilla - so the price differences from Nost to now reflect that.

The problem here is that the methods are widely known because of YouTubers trying to make money off the game.

Again, this happened on Nost, and it all worked out - hell you even cleared Naxx - don’t get so worried.

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Because your counter points are false, lack any basis in history, logic, economics, game design, reason, or sanity, and only exist because you want to disagree with someone on the internet and you don’t care if you are wrong.

Bottom line: Herbs should spawn in AV. If you are here disagreeing about that, you are a troll.

Herbs spawning in AV would dilute the experience in AV by having people mass AFK out, why does your preference towards playing the game override others?

No. Them not spawning in AV is diluting the experience in AV. As the current experience in AV is pretty awful. It’s mostly unplayable and bad.

I’m sorry you don’t want a vanilla experience. You are wrong, move on.

I mean, I have a Vanilla experience - I don’t even consume or stack world buffs for anything but BWL.

Moot point. Move along.

It’s not though? How many people stacked world buffs and popped flasks in BWL?

Did you raid in Vanilla?