Let's define casual

Fruit of the Loom is comfortable :+1:

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I cannot respond without being rude. So simply, Pvp should be competitive and fair. If wow is a non casual game, why even allow casuals? I know the answer and I think you do too

All of this false. Casual is one who doesnt do end game raiding or high end pvp. They do pretty much everything else that they can solo. Its grouped content they cant do.

At least get the definition right before you type.

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Huh… Every day must be Friday now. I knew that every day was Covid Sunday, apparently every day is Covid Friday too.

A veritable Schrodinger’s Day paradox, where I simultaneously did and yet did not go to work today. And will and will not have to go to work tomorrow. :confounded::scream:

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Well darn, i’m hardcore then. :laughing: /j

Yep. You went out of your way to download them. Just play your hand.

OP nails why the term ā€˜casual’ is useless on these forums.

Everyone has a different definition in their mind when they see it.

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Competitiveness has nothing to do with being casual.

Casual is to do something on occasion.

You can be competitive, on occasion.

This means being competitive and being casual are not mutually exclusive.

It caters to the casual playerbase more then ever if we’re being honest.

It’s a malformed question, based on your own personal opinion, despite not understanding what casual means.

This means it’s a bad question that is basically disingenuous.

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Not only that, but i have Notepad++ and know how to make tiny edits to the Addons like changing the button names to something silly like ā€œDanny Devitoā€.

Does this mean i’m worthy for the top guilds? :scream: /j

Why are you trying to put people in a box. That is what is wrong in the world today. We always have to have a label for people. Yes I call myself casual. Yes I don’t believe in using add ons. It takes away from actually learning the game. I have grouped with another individual in the past for a day. Did it when BFA dropped and with my boosted toon. We both went from 110 to 118 and was having fun until she had to leave to fix dinner for her family. But I rarely group with anyone when I play. I do have a guild, but then all the members are my alts. That guild bank is nice place to keep my mats that all my alts have access to. I’m set up to be self sufficient so I rarely need to use the AH. I don’t use a mic or have any communication systems set up for the game. As for the Arena crap I don’t do arenas, no mythic , no heroic, no pvp, no duels, no raids, no dungeons. Yet I still find fun things to do in the game. And now with the state of the country I’m not even buying the occassional token to put in the AH. I won’t feed your addiction and definitely feed the toxicity I see in the game against people that don’t play the same way they do. People play for different reasons and have different game goals. At the end of the day we are all supporting the game in our own way. So let each play the way they like without the toxicity. And let trade chat actually be for trade. If I see someone looking for a better deal on bags then they see on the AH then I’m usually there. But I won’t let someone in my guild that is just going to rape my guild bank for their own greedy gain. I had someone join my guild a couple of months ago and then demand 300k gold or they would just leave. My response is don’t let the door hit you in the butt on your way out, but better let my boot give you a boost. There is no place in the game for beggers or people gaining from being a beggger. I don’t let someone gain from my work in the game. Label me what you want since you can’t enjoy the game without placing labels on everyone.

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A casual, is a player that is not concerned with what is Meta or with their relative ranking or their place in the MMO hierarchy.

This will manifest in many many different ways (some of which you listed) and how they approach the game.

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What a hilarious requirement.

Casual- adj. Relaxed and unconcerned.

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I wish but I’m climbing a ladder 40feet to clean a duct .I did think my cloth would last :worried:

A casual is someone not obsessed with the game or having to complete everything within the first ten minutes of a new xpac. Not that those are bad things, but they are not casual.

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I’m definitely a Tier 5: Casual, though I didn’t even do Mechagon, or those Suramar ones either.

But what I really want to know is why your Tier list goes 5, 4, 3, and then 4, 5 again. lol

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uuuhhhhh, come again?

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Pretty sure i’m more casual than any of you. /flex :muscle:

Casual as you call them have kept this game alive but now Blizzard are in dire straights cause they’re leaving gl to those that think Raiding and Rated pvp is the bomb cause to be honest they log once a week to raid and do rated pvp. Blizzard HAVE CATERED TO THE WRONG PEOPLE and it will cost them dearly now.

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I don’t even know how to relink all that.

I would love nothing more than to play this game for only a few hours a week doing the content I enjoy which is player vs player. In particular random battlegrounds, hoping I get an actual random battleground without premades. Also all games that have player vs player has always had a fair baseline. Wow does not. Specs are unbalanced I get that! That is countered by having more specs present in an instance(something arena players fail to realize). Bgs are a great casual instance if you play against random players.
Wow worsens the gap with ilvls. The gear factor in this game is ridiculous. That means a cannot do casual content without doing non casual content. The addons just reassures me that players in this game are really pathetic and just want to min/max which might be the worst thing to happen to game, and that leads me to my last comment. The game begs for casuals because without us you will have no justification for all the nonsense you put into this game designed for kiddos