Let's be honest: Blizzard doesn't have faith to make Tinkers race restricted

Yeah it’s why night elf players are getting highborne options in Shadowlands

Took them 10 years.

Thund. that’s a proper Orc name right there.
I love him.

This is exactly true, They were the original Azshara followers that didn’t get completely screwed over or killed.

But they weren’t low born. They were of a Higher bloodline, they use and consume magic. Making them High Elves.
Quite literally of a Higher bloodline than everyone else.

Dwarves are an awesome race, condemned to be on the less popular faction.

Not at all. Disagreements happen, and certain subjects can get heated. For what it’s worth, looking back, I did come off a bit more aggressive than I mean to. So I apologize for that.

Let’s go have a pint. :slight_smile:

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Yeah, but look at the lore of the thing you’re talking about. It was designed by a goblin, and the iron horde took that. How does that show that orcs can be engineers? And again, the iron horde are not the maghar.

Yay!

:four_leaf_clover:

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We’ve seen non naga Azshara.

Highborne is just different eyes from m night elves I thought?

She is by the definition a Highborne and her model looks nothing like a high elf/ blood elf

Yeah it was designed by a goblin. But engineering can be taught, it isn’t inherently magical. Obviously the Orcs are capable of making their own weapons and munitions.

And While the Mag’har are a separate entity from the Iron Horde, they are clearly meant to embrace the same fantasy. The uncorrupted orc clans of draenor at their full strength.

Heres the non-biased list of things that should be Tinkers:

Alliance:
Dwarves
Dark Iron Dwarves
Gnomes
Mechagnomes

(2 core races, 2 allied races)

Horde:
Goblins
Forsaken
Maghar Orcs
Nightborne (they have enough tech usage with their giant bots and telemancy to count)

(2 core races, 2 allied races)

If you guys desperately want to push Vulpera as an option, then add LFD as the Alliance option.

I always wondered how that worked! They use their tongue like a scoop! That’s actually pretty neat.

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Your Alliance bias is showing, hard.

All animals are amazing creatures, though I admit a personal bias towards foxes. I grew up on a farm, and I got to see many of them on the property and in the bush. They are adorable. (squee)

Don’t worry, we never harmed them!! We always set out non-lethal traps and had them relocated back into the forest.

:four_leaf_clover:

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We’re not talking simple engineering here, we’re talking full on mech’s. There are only two races that have come up with the inventions not based on magic and built them. Goblin and Gnome.

Tinker isnt full-on mechs either.

Highborne ARE High Elves.
It’s in the name, they are High Born. very literally.

The reason for the looks is due to some inconsistencies on blizzards part, and Elf Physiology

I don’t mean to be mean. Let me explain a little bit.

Azshara, The Highborne, and even the High Elves at quel’thalas are all High Elves. They’re all from the Highborne bloodline of the original elves around the Well of eternity.

When the demons attacked, All the Highborne fled to different places. Some went to Zin’ashari with their queen, and they all got sunk.
Some went to Surumar. we know what happens there.

The Sunstrider Dynasty and their followers leave to go establish what would be Quel’thalas. They were REALLY full of themselves and started literally calling themselves High Elves.

But all the OTHER Highborne are also High Elves. Because they aren’t lowborn. They have an incredible understanding of the Arcane.
The only Lowborn elves are the tall, savage, Night elves.

It should be only Goblins/Gnomes.

If you want another race you have to level a Tinker to level 50 like heritage armor.

I’m glad to hear that Wiccan. It’s been so long since I’ve gotten to see a fox. The one I did get to see up close my dad shot. I was sad. :cry:

Dwarves (extending to DIs as well) are canonically able to be tinkers. Both in the RPG and in WoW

The only reason I add more is because faction balancing. Have Alliance being able to have four different races as tinker vs only one for Horde…aint gonna fly in any circumstance.

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Yes. But if Blizzard does that, it’ll be a bigger fiasco than demon hunters, I’m willing to open it up to more races, just to prevent outrage.

Personally though, I don’t care. MY tinker would be a Goblin