Difference in giving critique to someone and being a a hole to someone.
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No, it is incorrect.
What you do is Keen Edge - Bloodfest - Rough Divide - Gnashing Fang - Continuation - Blasting Zone - Savage Claw - Continuation - Rough Divide - Wicked Talon - Continuation - Bow Shock, finish off with a nice Burst Strike and then you continue your 1-3 from Brutal Shell - Solid Barrel. Not one cartridge wasted, not a second wasted on just autoattacking.
In between each GCD ability you should always try to weave in two off GCD abilities, sometimes your ping will only permit one, but two off GCD abilities is the peak performance of the GNB. You have to keep track of all of your abilities, GCD and Off GCD, while keeping your rotation in mind, while making sure that you keep emnity, while also not standing in crap, and while keeping an eye on debuffs and mitigation abilities which you should at a majority of the time keep up, it is why we have multiple damage decreasing abilities afterall.
Yes, playing casually is simple. You can just jump in there and just do the 1-3, single target or AoE. But when going higher you will be expected to deal damage as well, as a tank and as a healer. So getting proper weaving down, is extremely important. But of course, it is mostly just important if you go for savage and ultimates.
It is just a nice boon in smaller dungeons and trials.
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This is false.
Saying, you have to tank it here is different than dming someone that they should kill themselves.
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To add to both of these. It’s a slippery slope. Some people insist on giving out unsolicited advice. Some do so but are those people who think they know what they’re talking about but do not. Some are just know-it-alls who expect everyone to play to their standards or bust.
Even if you’re not “being a a hole”, someone may not be interested in taking advice from some random guy in a dungeon. That’s why I don’t critique others. If someone isn’t playing to my liking, I have 2 options 1) Vote/kick 2) Leave.
I think there is a disconnect. I thought you were asking if that was the continuation rotation.
What you posted assumes your OGCDs are off CD. That’s not always the case.
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It’s because no one gives too much of a crap. If you are really doing a bad job they’ll just boot you and have someone swap to their tank. It’s easy since you can be all roles in 1 character. Tanks don’t really have a much staying power as they do in wow, where if a tank leaves thats like 30mins + LF another one.
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Exactly even if you not trying to be offensive someone may take offense to it and end up getting you banned.
No one wants to play a game that has a social aspect if you end up walking on eggshells.
It is not.
But it is hardly as simple as you liked to paint it. You want to keep track of all of it, and that is not to make tanking sound stressful, because one gets used to it, much of it is muscle memory. But you want to keep track of your GCD abilities and off GCDs, and doing that while keeping track of everything else is only easy if you stick to a 1-3 combo, and then occasional 1-3 with an additional button you click every other second.
I’ve had multiple dungeons that were only sprouts, some people saying they were WoW refugees, and we chatted about dungeon strategies and worked together more than I’ve literally ever experienced in like a decade of playing WoW. Never ran into a group that wasn’t friendly, either.
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In the some 1,000+ dungeons I’ve done in XIV, I have only seen maybe 3-5 times a tank was booted out of a group and that was because they were entirely terrible, like, wearing terrible gear, or refusing to use tank stance, etc.
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The simple solution is to just not give out advice just like that.
I go into every dungeon blind even with new groups, if we wipe on a boss I’ll explain the mechs, if not we continue on. I do not care how they play anywhere else but in my savages and ultimates.
Yea, that’s what I mean. People pretty relaxed, unless you absolutely screwing up and wasting everyones time doing dumb stuff.
people dont like playing tanks because they want to be remembered as good players
there has never been a metric tanks could use to separate themselves from other tanks. cept for KRSI during WOD
Been playing for around 5 years, given plenty of criticism to people, and tried to help them. Never been banned. So still not true.
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That person is a troll, don’t feed pls.
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That is the continuation combo, as you first described. I’m not referring to what you weave in-between the combo.
Your basic 123 combo is Keen Edge, Brutal Shell and Solid Barrel. Just because I can weave Blasting Zone into that combo does not make that part of the combo itself.
But maybe tanking as GNB is easier for me than it is for you. I never had any issues with my defensive CDs, my DPS combo or wasting resources. Some jobs come more naturally to some people than others.
I do agree with you there. That’s how I do things in dungeons and my same attitude for savages/ultimates. The latter are meant for your own groups. You can criticize them all you want. But when it comes to random people, they may not know your tone and take it as berating, so it’s best not to say anything. While some will disagree and think “how else are they supposed to get better?” Everyone’s skills sharpen at different speeds.
Maybe not the case now, but in Vanilla and TBC you knew the good tanks based on how much threat they could dish out. The main tank of my guild on Classic held a top 3 spot in the world on WCL for all of MC and BWL and everyone on the server knew he was incredible. We were dealing with guilds from other servers after paid transfers became a thing asking him to go tank for them and they were guilds that were big names in the Classic server community like Onslaught, bipolar, etc.
It’s a lot harder to see a good tank now because you just slap the boss twice and won’t ever lose threat. But that’s more of a fault with Blizzard’s simplification of the game. You play TBC and actually do any sort of damage worth a damn and you will very quickly recognize good tanks vs bad tanks because you’ll constantly rip threat off a terrible tank.
Blatant lie.
You chat the same way in FFXIV that you do in WoW… They literally took the system from WoW lol
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Chat wasn’t an innovation with WoW though lmao. It’s the same way of chat that’s always been a thing. You press Enter, type message, hit enter again.
Though for real I have no idea where the dude is getting “not as user-friendly” from, like it’s text. Sounds more like user error than user unfriendliness.
exactly, that comment was so ridiculous