Well… his idea literally changes next to nothing in the retail experience… love heirlooms and the XP buff? You can still get both easily with his suggestion…
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No there is nothing to be gained by removing something completely optional/elective from the game.
Its a horrible idea that is a waste of game developers time.
They should be spending more time fixing major issues with the game than entertaining this type of nonsense and any other similar suggestions.
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One of the things I learned by going back to an Everquest TLP server.
GEAR is WAY too important in WoW.
I (and most in my group) went from 1 to cap (50) with whatever we happened to pick up along the way.
Some had newbie armor you could get as a drop at level 1.
Others got a few pieces here and there from the dungeons we ran or the questing we did (Like my Totemic pieces on my Shaman).
I forgot how few and far between gear was handed out vs WoW where your gear is replaced 1 -2 times before you hit level 10.
WoW (even Classic WoW0 throws gear at you so much you can replace it almost at will. Especially if you just spam dungeons.
On one hand, I really like when gear is rare, but also only minorly affects your characters power. The biggest thing that makes a character’s power is level and/or skills levels.
However, in Retail, I have prob 30-35 characters and will level more. I love my heirlooms. if for no other reason than having the ability to have my gear transmogged.
I wish there was a way to like this part more than once.
Basically a lets remove something else from the game thread, so I can get my special fee fee’s again.
You can always not use heirlooms, and gear up the old fashioned way. As far as I know a lot of the quests you do while leveling still drop enough gear to fill in most slots. Heirlooms were already hit with the stat nerf sledgehammer anyways, so they are pretty much in line with leveling greens anyways.
Grats on not reading the OP again… He removed nothing… He shifted something. That’s literally it.
Still want to use heirlooms and have the XP buff? You… still can with his suggestion. Easily.
All his suggestion did was give us MORE options… not less. With his suggestion you can:
- Level without heirlooms and without the buff for the true leveling experience.
- Level without heirlooms and with the buff for faster leveling, but still being able to seek rewards from content (I’ve explained above why I disagree with him here).
- Level with heirlooms and with the buff… Giving you exactly what we have now…
I actually also disagree with his suggestion, but at least I’m doing it from a point of logic rather than a point of ignorance.
TL;DR - L2Read an entire OP before you respond.
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Read the full OP… He didn’t want heirlooms removed… Want to level with heirlooms and the XP buff? You still can with his suggestion…
All his suggestion did was give us another option.
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They should just do away with heirlooms in general and make leveling quicker for all
Maybe they could keep the items in the game as something to give level 1’s for a jump start, something they’d replace around level 10 or so
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No need to. It’s a thinly veiled remove heirlooms thread. Op has not added anything new to the topic that has not been mentioned before in all the other heirloom threads over the last several years. Some of the suggestions in the past threads was adding a xp tabard, a substantial xp gain bonus for every character you already have at max level that applies to every new character you make. Example- you have 5 max level characters you get a 50% xp bonus gain. 10 you get a 100% bonus. Anyways the toy box one was mentioned also in the past, as were things like xp gear enchants. Basically op is just beating the dead horse into dust.
I’m confused as to why OP can’t just ignore heirlooms.
There’s nothing stopping him from not using heirlooms if he wants to enjoy the reward of getting item drops.
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Heirlooms are now dumbed down and with all this talk about possibly doing a leveling squish this might actually work. Interesting ideas for sure. At this point in the game overhauls are definitely needed seeing how classic twitch beta streaming is going REALLY STRONG.
#MakeAzerothGreatAgain
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As someone who has almost every heirloom armor item, including both PvP exp boost trinkets, this should happen.
It’s stupid that 80% of items are pointless.
However, it’s more stupid that all non-heirloom items become pointless after 20 minutes of playtime.
We would need heirloom armor to get canned and for each level to last 10 times as long so getting an item actually meant something.
Ideally, you would collapse all the level brackets down to something like, 30 levels, each level would represent about 3-4 hours play time, and THEN getting a piece of blue armor for your level would matter.
Again… Read the full OP. Heck, specifically read “And to all those that disagree:” where is he specifically rectifies your concern.
This… isn’t hard…
Because he loses out on the XP gain then… What he’s asking for is to still level quickly, but also be able to seek out rewards during the experience. I personally think that what he’ll get out of this is pretty small and I explained above why.
I’m only responding further cause the sheer lack of reading comprehension in this thread has reached hilarious levels.
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I’m not sure it’s an issue of reading comprehension. For myself at least.
If the reward really is in the process then he shouldn’t be seeking to shorten it.
Practice what you preach. I also said op has not added anything new that has not been discussed in many of the previous threads made over the years on the heirloom topic.
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That’s exactly why I don’t think it’ll help as well. I’m just not going to jump on the “you just wanna remove heirlooms” train as that’s clearly not what he was aiming at.
Then don’t pigeon hole him the way you did and respond intelligently. You can refute his premise without resulting to trying to classify him as another ‘rose-tinted moron.’
Maybe you should follow your own advice.
The OP specifically states REMOVE HEIRLOOMS AND ADD A TOY FOR XP.
As I stated before this is A COMPLETE WASTE OF GAME DEVELOPERS RESOURCES FOR SOMETHING THAT IS ELECTIVE.
I hope that is clear enough for you understand seeing the difficulty you had.
Learn to read bro.
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Awkward.
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Still a waste of time. Especially considering the XP is on shoulders, helm and chest which deprives you of azerite in the current xpac therefore making you weaker to level in BFA.
The OPs idea still remains a complete waste of time and game resources.
Sadly you feel the need to whiteknight this ridiculous idea.
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