Thanks, I did not see this one. How Ion explains it here is a better solution than what they originally said, so they have put some work into this.
It will still be abused in multiple ways by joining others groups though.
That might be the next best alternative to dynamic layering, but it still presents major problems that I think are much worse than dynamic layering.
If you have “locked” independent layers that you plan to merge at some point it creates a few problems.
Even if they share names, you still end up eventually merging distinct, isolated communities and economies. But if you start with 4 layers, you either have to wait until all 4 layers have low enough populations to merge them all at once, which would be absolute chaos IMO. That would also mean all layers are active for the maximum amount of time and each layer has to be practically dead before you collapse them into one realm.
Or you stagger the merges, so communities go through up to 3 merge events effecting their community and economy. That also sounds awful to me. I prefer dynamic layers where everyone can interact and they are part of the same economy. This allows the layers to collapse as soon as possible and with the fewest negative impacts as possible. YMMV
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It doesn’t take rocket appliances to get your grade 10.
I hope you’re right
Indeed, it’s not rocket science.
Is there more than 1 Azeroth per realm at any time? Are there more than about 3k players in that world at any time?
Yes: It’s not Classic, fix it. #nochanges
No: Congratulations! You’ve successfully preserved the original game. Enjoy your incoming success!
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This the only reason I don’t get my panties in a twist over it.
Still, I think it’s a bad idea and they may even lose a lot of players -because- of it. And the arguments people use in favor of layering are always ridiculous.
If you have that big of an issue with server lag and login issues, the solution is simple. Just don’t play. Or wait for overcrowdedness to dissipate.
Why is it that you get to tell people they should just not play and wait for layering to go away, but apparently it’s “not right” for people to similarly deal with the login issues until they’re over?
“Overcrowdedness for 3 weeks is an issue” > “WE MUST ADD LAYERING!”
“Layering for 3 weeks is an issue” > “Lol it’s only for 3 weeks chill”"
Do you not see how absolutely ridiculous this reasoning is?
Well, I didn’t want to bring it up but…
Ooohhh, I see. So its not actually a case of building a valid argument: you’re just biased.
So an argument only flies when it goes in favor of what YOU like. Naturally.
Overcrowdedness inconveniences you since you want to play on day one, therefor the game NEEDS layering and everyone who disagrees is stupid.
Layering inconveniences other people, but obviously THOSE people then should just wait for layering to go away, no big deal, right?
I would ask how you are incapable of not understanding how ridiculous and backwards this kind of reasoning is, but then, you already said you have a tiny monky brain…
Ah, I see you’re still going on about forcing your delusional view of reality on other people.
Just because you see things a certain way, it doesn’t make it facts.
“Sick of being abused” seems to be your way of saying “I don’t like it when people disagree with me or see things differently.”
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Joe Rogan? Is that you?
Well unless they’re straight up lying it’ll be gone before phase 2 begins. Blizz had said layering doesn’t work with things like the honor system or world bosses so they have no choice, it can’t stay in much past launch.
So you get time to actually make a community instead of just seeing random people you don’t remember phase in and out around you all day?
The horror.
Except that you won’t see random people phase in and out all day. That’s not how layering works. People stay on the layer they logged in on unless they get invite to group with someone on another layer. So you may occasionally see someone appear or disappear near you when they get invited to group across layer, not constant phasing in and out. Of course it looks just like someone logging in or out of the game, so you’ll have no way of knowing if that person just layer hopped or logged in, so it’s not any more immersion breaking than game mechanics that already exist.
Also, community will be forming during this time. All layers can interact, sharing AH, chats, ability to group, trade and guild. It is just that you won’t be able to see everyone on all layers all at the same time. But you’re not going to see everyone on a single realm at one time either, especially when everyone is spread out leveling. Layering will likely be gone by the time most people hit 60.
Many people are perfectly willing to trade a minor, temporary inconvenience for a smooth launch and healthy realm pops that let us play the game as it was intended after layering is removed.
No, someone directly attacking me, without even an attempt at discussing the topic, on multiple threads, is not “someone disagreeing with me”. It’s someone logging an alt to directly attack someone else.