Layer Jumping Disclaimer

[Bolgrim-whitemane]

gee I wonder why it’s mages who defend layer hoping

[Blake-stalagg]

I don’t think there will be bans for use of layering to get mob respawns for leveling. If they were going to punish that they would’ve done so already. But I could be wrong.

The xp rollbacks wouldn’t be too terrible. Just makes people relevel and everything is Gucci. The nodes and stuff need fixed. Having years supplies of Black Lotus and Arcane Crystals does seem a bit unfair to everyone else when they think they strike the motherload and loot 1 Black Lotus to only have it worth Vendor price because of the saturated market.

I wonder why it’s mages who defend layer hoping

I don’t defend it. I don’t like it. But if I don’t do it, I’ll be the level 40 w/ 10g w/ no mount and not the layer jumping dude w/ 150g and a mount.

[Cursedd-area-52]

That’s hypocritical as hell lol

#MyClassic

[Sissonne-grobbulus]

That’s hypocritical as hell lol

Well maybe.

But when it was just leveling it wasn’t directly affecting anyone else. If in fact it’s going to have a major impact on the economy (which I don’t know if it is or not, but some people think it is), that affects everybody.

Historically they’ve been way more aggressive about punishing players for things that affect the economy.

[Summerayne-pagle]

Well, here is Blizzard’s response:

@Pazorax-1880

We’ve been monitoring players’ use of layers, and we agree that we should add a delay between subsequent layer transfers. Under the hood we have all the controls I talked about in the Reddit AMA before launch, a few secret weapons we haven’t discussed publicly, and we’re working on deploying some additional controls to further restrain layering from being exploitable.

However, we also want to assure you that the issue is a much smaller problem than some people are claiming. We’ve been closely monitoring the effect layering is having on economies and other aspects of the game, and many of the stories we see posted are wildly inaccurate. We’ve seen screenshots of banks full of rare crafting materials, which we’ve investigated and proved false.

Another popular theory is that you can determine your current layer by doing a /who in a capital city, and comparing the results against the /who your friend does. That doesn’t work because /who returns results from the entire realm, not just from your layer, and if the result set is too large it truncates the results before sorting them. This means every player gets different results, but those differences in result set have nothing to do with which layer you’re on. This has led some people to claim that they’ve discovered dozens of layers per realm, but that claim is completely false .

All realms have a single-digit number of layers. Most of them have a low single-digit number.

Rest assured that there are not people running around with banks full of Thorium Crystals or Black Lotus.

They just posted this in another thread.

[Blake-stalagg]

This is all I wanted from Blizz. I just wonder if they’ll do anything about the people who have successfully layer abused.

[Summerayne-pagle]

I don’t know, I guess time will tell. It does seem they confirm that people doing this is an exploit though because they say “we’re working on deploying some additional controls to further restrain layering from being exploitable.”

I think anyone who exploited it should have anything they gained while doing it taken away personally. Surely a person should know that that isn’t normal gameplay.

[Blake-stalagg]

I think the most reassuring part is knowing people aren’t worlds ahead of us from doing it. My disclaimer now is I don’t need/want to layer jump. I was only trying to protect myself if they deemed it okay now then later changed their minds.

[Fasciae-fairbanks]

Layer switching is the problem, not layering itself

We’ve been monitoring players’ use of layers, and we agree that we should add a delay between subsequent layer transfers. Under the hood we have all the controls I talked about in the Reddit AMA before launch, a few secret weapons we haven’t discussed publicly, and we’re working on deploying some additional controls to further restrain layering from being exploitable. However, we also want to assure you that the issue is a much smaller problem than some people are claiming. We’ve been closely…

Enjoy not really getting anything out of it.

[Summerayne-pagle]

I think the most reassuring part is knowing people aren’t worlds ahead of us from doing it.

Agree. That was really good to hear from Blizzard because after reading these forums and how bad people were saying it was, it was getting concerning. It was kind of like my worst fear of layering ruining the game I love coming true. I’m glad Blizzard has checked into this and clarified everything. It’s good to know they are continuing to monitor this.

I haven’t changed layers once since the game has launched. I don’t have world chat on because it’s usually just a lot of trolling and bickering. So I personally had not been seeing what I had saw many here saying, at least not yet. I had not saw anyone in general, trade or my guild asking to be invited to a layer.

[Citrus-blaumeux]

Whether intentional or unintentional Blizzard inadvertently gave their approval of exploiting the layering system with Method and Jokerd.

If you get any kind of ban or warning, just throw that in their face.

[Wylkanth-frostwolf]

Otherwise one would assume Jokerd gets rerolled or special privileges to keep his 60.

That guy doesn’t care. He was already banned from retail and kicked out of private servers.

Don’t use him as your model.