you’re not missing out on anything critical by speccing into hibernate
this is the bigger issue. that 1.1 sec cast is 1.1 sec where you’re vulnerable. good to have barkskin up for it, depending on what mobs are still up.
On this I will admit my mistake.
I was looking, not at “Mythic” (which I read at M+) … but “Mythic Abberus.”
It’s the RAID where Warriors are showing as 2nd to last.
I didn’t see a chart for M+, but I’m fine to assume you’re posting accurate data.
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I am. My DPS.
Stormbolt is NOT the right solution to this problem. A 4s stun doens’t deal with Incorp properly.
“Yo, Warrior! Lower your dps, so you can stun this before the other guy CCs it.”
Warrior: Why don’t you just have that other guy CC IT IN THE FIRST PLACE???
gg
Scroll up a post. See that part where I admitted I was wrong?
You should try it sometime.
In terms of priority for dealing with it healers are first and tanks last because of that
Tanked a 12 HoI on my warrior last night and literally ran through the dungeon.
Interrupt, storm bolt, shock wave, interrupt was enough for me to lock down one of them long enough solo while I was tanking during bosses. The cast time is literally forever and charge lets me get uptime quickly. I didn’t even respec into intimidating shout.
Didn’t seem as bad as y’all are saying. Especially since entangling roots is a non-afffix…
Interaction with death strike for blood dks is poorly thought out though. I’ll give y’all that.
Stormbolt is a fine solution to the problem. It’s not as good as hex or polymorph, but it’s better than nothing. The casts are 5 seconds long. A 4 second stun gives the party 9 seconds to throw out another CC. I think most people will agree that losing that one stormbolt talent point worth of dps is a good trade off for being able to prevent a full party wipe.
Someone already corrected me on that yesterday:
Sure. In the same way a guy gets his arm cut off and you put a bandaid on it. Better than nothing, amirite?!!!
And I think most people will agree that the people that CAN control this issue with proper CC … SHOULD.
Instead of asking some guy to gimp his dps because the other people in your group can’t play. Exactly how many intermediate steps do you need before you, instead, just ask ppl to play it right? You’re saying one from the Warrior is enough? Why not two? Or three? Let’s make it five! Let everyone have some sort of temporary CC, before you simply use the right CC in the first place. It’s part of the fun!!
And from your obvious inability to admit you’re wrong, we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Because you obviously won’t see the fallacy in your argument. Take care.
Did a few lazy 11-12s last night to farm some wyrm crests and it seems like kind of a nothing affix. Couple of times the ghosts were in obnoxious places, but they were still easily dealt with. Saying that tho, if I see people not speccing or refusing to spec into hard cc before the key is started that person is getting replaced.
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The AoE portion of int shot does NOT work on spirits. You have to be actively targeting the spirit to have your CC work. Int shout has a 1 min 30 sec CD - you may need it for actual mobs.
Many other classes have a spammable, no CD CC move that would other wise not be utilized in dungeon combat (fear/sheep/shackle, etc). The affix is absolutely trivial for them. When you play a class that doesn’t have that, you feel like you’re the one getting carried and your party slot is the pity slot. It’s a crap feeling to have.
If you look for reasons why something can’t be done, you’ll find them. If you look for solutions to solve the problem, you’ll find them.
Whether you believe you can or believe you can’t, you’re right.
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Ehh its a beyond moronic affix that adds nothing to the game other than annoying people. Not a good design at all, maybe design an affix thats actually enjoyable to play around?
I get what your saying, but at the same time, I think this is the first time you could build a group that literally can’t complete level appropriate content.
Sure we can swap people, but just the thought that a comp (bad comp) is literally not going to work … its wild.
Swapping 1 talent point will not gimp your DPS. And refusing to participate in an affix when you have ways to help is bad play. If you’re having such a hard time with this easy affix you should look at what you’re doing about it instead of raging on the forums.
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My argument all along, to the people that can CC properly…
Is what you tell the people that can properly CC this … and don’t …
The only one raging here is you because you simply refuse to admit you’re wrong.
Why are we designing the game around people that intentionally go out of their way to make a bad comp?
What am I wrong about? I’m saying if you swap 1 talent point to stormbolt you’ll be able to help with the affix and it won’t noticably affect your DPS. That’s obviously true. Would you rather groups not take you because you refuse to help the team?
Well, assuming thats the case, we shouldn’t be.
And I haven’t run this week because I’m out of town for work, but I’m being completely honest when I say that I do enjoy running with two of the dps warriors from my guild. I like to joke that it’s 2 warriors short of the perfect group.
Well be fine because I’ll make sure the other two invites have a solid CC, but I could see cases where friends are SoL because of this. It’s probably not all that common, but it really doesn’t need to happen.
Make it so any CC ends the mob and suddenly this is all a non-issue … no class or talent changes needed.
I’ve explained it, quite plainly, like 5 times now.
Neither of us have stooped to petty insults to get our points across, etc which is a HUGE win for these boards.
So let’s instead focus on something else I said a few posts ago: we can agree to disagree. Take care.
The point is to have reasons to change up talents though