People talk about how bad Kyrians are…
It’s almost like they don’t know Pelagos’ story.
if you obliterate their memories, it’s not them anymore. all their kindness and selfless acts are completely erased along with everything else. meaning they’re a blank slate, and there was no reason so select particular people for it. you literally might as well grind up their soul into anima and make a subservient construct out of it, as that’s essentially what you are doing.
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Nope not gonna bait. Not today void troll
I’d argue Ardenweald is the closest thing to a heaven were it working properly. Sleeping until reincarnation isint the worst fate
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Yet somehow, a signifigant number of those selected to go to the Kyrian find their ways to be torturous and unacceptable.
Forsworn are super rare, but with the mawsworn corrupting them as well this has changed. Think about it, most Kyrian’s are a bunch of broken people just trying to forget their past. They are most definitely susceptible to corruption if the mawsworn are involved. And they are involved. Things have most definitely been fine up until the Maw’s influence and lack of anima started creeping in.
Only wild gods get to reincarnate. The rest tend to the wildseeds to make sure the important souls make it back.
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Does it really matter what your uber driver thinks of you as long as you get to the right place?
There’s no reason for the memory wiping, only justifications.
Still much worse fates I think and they keep their memories of life
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Plus aside from the invading Drust, which is new, everyone there is very chill.
Very busy, but very chill.
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Imagine being told you had to forget the possibly very important memories that lead to you wishing to serve for the greater good. Like imagine being told to forget you were in a loving marriage.
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I think some of these people don’t realize that all these covenants are supposed to be “morally grey”
If the forsworn are so rare, why is there two temples to deal with this rare problem?
And where did the ‘broken people’ thing come from? The whole premise is that theses are the good and noble souls.
The thing that’s breaking them is clearly the torturous indoctrination process.
The reasoning is that the Shadowlands needs souls to be ferried to the Arbiter and done so without bias and judgement. Literally the Uther Afterlife video highlights the problems that would arise out the Kyrians maintaining their memories of their previous life.
To think that the Kyrians wouldn’t devolve into becoming judge, jury and executioner is absolute ignorance.
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If you had positive things like that, then you most likely would not be sent to Bastion. That’s exactly why Alexandros Mograine was sent to Mald and not Bastion.
There are two temples to deal with this problem because it takes years for them to forget what happened to them, as the people going the Kyrian afterlife are souls that have things they want to forget. And with that comes pain ect ect.
They are broken from their experiences in life, this doesn’t make that not good and noble souls. Uther is the shining example of one of them. His king was slaughtered, his entire kingdom was put to ruin, his student was the one doing all this slaughtering and his student was also the person who killed him. He lost everything.
It highlights the problems with getting killed by Frostmourne.
If arthas had been dropped in the arbiter hole, it would not have really mattered how much devos didn’t like him.
So unless you are saying some Kyrian would start sorting souls themselves instead of just dropping them all in the same place, its still only a justification for a lazy system.
That’s exactly what would happen. The bias in judgement would lead to more souls being thrown into the Maw or other areas of the Shadowlands that aren’t meant for that soul simply because the Kyrian who ferried the soul deemed themselves that their actions deserve it. It’s a necessary evil.
Again it’s ignorance to think there wouldn’t be any bias. That’s just part of the human condition or is ‘some’ manipulation of their identity okay?
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Hmm.
I am getting a Hades and Persephone feel suddenly… Kyrian trying to double time work to make up for the Abrytir (I know bad spelling, on phone with fat fingers) being K.O’ed and the Jailer doubling efforts - getting this feeling that there is a singular connection between the two that both need to exist, but both don’t necessarily need to be awake.
Thus, forcing the 4 key covens to double their efforts for their own goal versus a singular goal that benefits the entire afterlife.
I.E: Hades and Persephone have a unique (im)balance, while she (Persephone) is away, the living world is in spring and summer; but Tartarus is a living hell with lesser and demigods battling it out while Hades plots and wreck havoc, while she is with Hades the living world is in winter and gloomy, but Tart. is working smoothly.
The Demis / Lessers (Covens) are working to solely to benefit themselves, while each have already mentions when Persephone was around (Arby was awake), the collection/sorting was smooth and all worked together (though not liking each other) to guide the souls to the many afterlives they deserve, be it the big four to the thousands of others not directly mentioned.
So in the end… Both must exist, but neither one must be awake for one or the other to operate.
Still boring af though
If you complete their dungeon, the Firstborne says that she will discuss possible change in Kyrian ways after beating the Jailer. So, they’re not totally set in their ways and are willing to consider other options.