It never meant anything anyway. You just assigned it some random meaning.
Man your logic makes no sense if ppl have 2k score with untimed 16-17s well they must have timed a 15 which was the old ksm, so i see no problem here
I think itâs easier now because they want you to do +20âs for portals.
Prideful is gone.
I think forcing fortified and tyrannical on us is dumb⌠but with prideful gone Iâm cool with it.
If KSM is too easy, go get the +20 teleports like the cool kids.
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Donât take this the wrong way but if it felt like a big accomplishment to get KSM before, you werenât top 100.
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Thatâs an exaggeration.
Itâs more like worker A did his set tasks in an hour (6 tasks at 10min each) and worker B did 6 ever so slightly more difficult tasks in 66-70min.
But worker A is more upset that worker B dares think that they are equally skilled.
Guy wasnât that good if KSM was hard for him last season 
how do you figure? most people arenât running their own keys
The people that are doing this normally couldnât care less about being good. Most of us just want the mount without needing to buy carries. There is a reason people donât normally push past whatever key level the reward caps at.
It already meant nothing at all because a normal person would assume you bought it anyway unless you pushed higher.
Bit hard to get invited to 16s and 17s with low IO though.
oh the guy i was replying to said â2k scoreâ so i was going off that
haha yes obviously if your score is 1k and you havenât timed a single 15 youâre probably not getting to 16s or 17s
Oh look an upset Mythic + elitist. Whats the matter bub? Having they entire game mutilated just to service your wants and desires not good enough? Well I am just shocked!
imagine thinking ksm was always been hard 
I donât have an opinion regarding the rating system, but I did want to say, for those who may become discouraged in reading this thread: Hard is subjective.
If you worked for it. If you had to take your time and attention and focus upon getting it, if because youâre still learning, or you have that friend you want to play with but face pulls all the things reliably, then it was hard, and it is an achievement to be proud of.
Now get out there and hit it out of the park!
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And this illustrates the reason itâs so dumb for Blizzard to continue to cater exclusively to this group of players. Itâs never going to be enough. Know how many casual players clamored for the rating system? Zero. Yet here we are. The elitists have gotten their in-game RIO, and now theyâre mad that itâs still not exclusive enough. So glad my sub runs out in a few days.
iâm casual and i think itâs great. i havenât even timed a 15 yet!
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If you think KSM is a joke thatâs ok. There are individual achievements now for every dungeon if you time them on a 20+! Go after those!
What? You could just buy it and do absolutely nothing to earn it beforeâŚI donât see how anything in the present somehow invalidates that achievement anymore.
itâs only a joke if the opposite switch was used to gain the ability âfuriousâ +15 are good when kings was used.
Or, and stay with me here, people are just playing the game, and doing the best they can, and getting whatever good gear they can. Just because YOU are competitive in this game doesnât mean most people are. Go after blizzard, and the people responsible for this if you donât like it, but there is absolutely no reason to bring other players, and their level of skill into this arguement, unless you just arenât stating your entire problem.