You know the answer to that… hybrid players think they deserve to have all their talent builds as fully viable.
Imagine if all 3 trees of mage were tier competitive in PVE and PVP KEK.
I am a hybrid player, I can see the flaws in the “hybrid player thinking” and I know full well there should be PVP spec’s and PVE specs.
Don’t even get me started on mage. Fire mage got like multiple 20-150% damage buffs across the board to make that spec S-tier in 4.3 The same patch they gutted fury with both direct nerfs (deep wounds no longer being re-applied from spell crits like avalanche proc, deep wounds not scaling from off-hand damage increase on the precision talent) and an indirect nerf (active trinkets that require stacks to activate used to not share cooldown with other active trinkets).
Feral druid has 17,260 logs it beats out
Aff lock - 10,237 Reported logs
Destro lock - 4960 Reported logs
Sub Rogue - 3289 Reported logs
Arcane mage with 1559 reported logs
Furry warrior 1164 reported logs
BM hunter with 728 reported logs
Marks hunters - 325 reported logs
Frost mages - 72 reported logs
But falls 3rd from last only beating
Marks hunter
Frost mages
That’s because you have a ton of overlap between feral dps and feral tank on logs. Warrior was by far the least represented CLASS for all of wrath and nobody cared or thought the class needed help. We were told to wait to scale and only did with a legendary. Get over yourselves. Warriors as a class had to be mid for all of wrath and only got saved by a legendary. Your spec can be bad for an xpac without you going off the deep end.
good luck man, hybrid players are mostly the same; just think of them all like RET paladins.
We all know the ret buff only happened because Aggrend played ret, same reason Boomie got that nice buff that affected PvE and PvP. We just got lucky that the ret buff wasn’t Blizzard’s idea in the first place or it would’ve been just as broken as the feral buff.
The current listing for 90% parses
is as follows
I honestly wouldnt mind if i was on par with ret pally ( which should realistly be buffed to theres classes with all 3 specs beating hybrid classes) that shouldnt be the case.
Feral and ret should be in top 12 thats not asking for alot!!!
You have no leg to stand on. Feral is the premier Off-tank able to do respectable dps even in tank set-ups and S-tier in PvP. Boomie gets a legendary next tier, sounds like you should respec.
And for the record, there’s a 2k dps gap between ret and feral atm. Not nearly enough to justify the kind of buff you guys are asking for.
Why?
Why cant all the classes be top 12? Because many of them are PVP spec’s…
Just imagine if Assassination and Combat were as good as sub in PVP.
prety sure i have 2 legs to stand and walk on and a mouth to speak my words and fingers to typed unspoken words.
yes PVP specs shouldnt be viable in PvE the fact that there are multiple classes with 2 or 3 specs that are beating 1 dps spec is absurd
What was it everyone was saying when both warrior specs were the lowest performing dps specs in Wrath? Oh yeah that’s right. Someone’s gotta be at the bottom.
Besides, you guys were the number 1 melee spec starting mid-Ulduar after an unnecessary overtuned buff. It wasn’t gonna last forever.
Maybe you psychopaths shouldn’t have harassed the devs and sent death threats when they tried to tone down that excessive buff.
So many want to ignore this is a big part of why players quit Wrath, that and everything post ULD is boring AF.
Our feral couldn’t believe they were stupid enough to make feral’s rotation that simple and do that much damage.
While being effectively immune to sheep, roots and snares.
and we lost hysteria from Wrath which is a 20% buff on all of our abilities
The algalon kill I 99’d, our feral did 700 more dps than me and parsed an 80. I had something like 60% crit on every ability, and still lost to mono-cat feral. We had the same casts per minute (not counting heroic strike).
I just had to play as clean as the top ranked warriors for 5 and a half minutes, get an ungodly amount of good crit rng, and then still come up short of ferals doing a rotation of the same difficulty as a combat rogue maintaining imp expose.
And his rotation was still harder lmao , go cry somewhere else
Mono cat is so absurdly free, you’re delusional.
Incorrect, if mono is free then war is a give away.
In no world mono cat is easier than warrior
even og druids from og wrath and cataclysm with mono cat were contested harder than zug warriors. Stop fooling urself
Warrior dificulty in wrath = 1
Druid bearweave 20
Mono cat 10