Your response is irrelevant with what I said. It doesn’t contradict any of my statments.
Sure, WOW probably aren’t copying Nintendo’s patent 100% so that’s ANOTHER reason why Nintendo won’t sue Microsoft. But that doesn’t invalidate what I said.
The patent that Nintendo made related to Pokemon battle and captures in US was granted September 2, 2025.
Pet Battles existed before that date? Yes.
Palworld existed before that date? Also, yes.
So, Nintendo CAN’T use that particular patent againts Microsoft nor Pocketpair. Againts Pocketpair Nintendo will use patents they had before Palworld was released, specially the Japanesse ones.
Palworld is also using other Nintendo’s patents like the gliding ones? I suppose yes. And if that patent was granted before Palworld was released…Pocketpair will loose. But in this topic we are not talking about that patent. We are talking about the US patent from September 2, 2025 and given that patents are not retroactive…every game with that typ of content automatically doesn’t vulnerate that patent. By the mere fact that they were made before the patent exists.
It actually can, and are, at least in the case of Pocketpair. Because they can demonstrate that even though the patent was only granted recently, that they were the first company to use that particular patent going back almost 30 years.
If they couldn’t legally use their patents to fight Pocketpair then the judge would have thrown out the case. But the judge didn’t, and here we are now, several months later, with the lawsuit still going forward and Pocketpair resorting to some insane legal stretches to try to disqualify Nintendo’s patent application so they can keep their ripped off designs in their game.
Yep, because the game is run by ion who only thinks the game should be what he wants. M+ and raid all else is an afterthought or something to be thrown away.
But at the same point they can see the engagement and if pet battling is that low to have it basically not being added to in midnight then its really the players saying they don’t care for it.
Ill be honest it was fun a bit and the celestial tournament was hard and fun but at this point I skip pet battle week as the reward is nothing I need and the quests offer tokens and are predictable use the same three pets.
The system is just not that interesting other than to catch new things at that point its just hoarding. Can still collect them its just from the players own interaction its not interesting enough to put dev time in.
More time for house dev time. But aye with Ion I dont think blizzard knows how to make fun non-instanced content that lasts.
Delves still fall under instances content. Prey however is in a good direction. The majority of content is still instances so grats on one new outdoor thing.
Your argument was that only M+ and raids matter and everything else is an afterthought. Delves and the upcoming Prey system make it clear that what you said was wrong.
That they were the first one is debatable. There were many japanesse RPG games with similar mechanics. But I recognize I am not familir with all of them so maybe they don’t match all the characteristics of this patent one by one.
Why are you asuming Nintendo is using this particular US patent in their case? Specially given that both Nintendo and Pocketpair are japanese companies and Nintendo has started fighting them in Japanese courts, using Japanese patents who are not recent and include things in their favor that weren’t accepted in US patents.
Again, patents are specific, they must be specific. Nintendo are not claiming they are the first ever game developer/publisher to create a pet battling game, they’re not. However their very specific patent is only in use by two game publishers, themselves via the Pokemon games, and Pocketpair with Palworld.
Hence why you’ve never seen Nintendo go after, say, Digimon. Because despite the Digimon video games and cartoon having similar themes to the Pokemon games and cartoon, they are not identical nor was Digimon trying to be. Likewise with Dragon Quest Monsters which is another pet battle franchise that has existed since 1998 on every single Nintendo console and handheld since the Gameboy Colour.
Nintendo has no problem with competition existing for their games. What they have a problem with is creatively bankrupt developers/publishers stealing their work and trying to profit off of it. Which is what Pocketpair did with Palworld. Sure, Palworld does have some uniqueness to it, but the core systems it has been built on were created by Nintendo.
Edit: I had outdated info. Blizz has confirmed the battle system is staying. They are just working on different ways to acquire pets and want there to be more pets to collect in general.
I would like to see them try, honestly. Pet battling/taming were around LONG before Nintendo was even a glimmer in the founder’s eye. They got their “patents” because the U.S. Patent Office is literally overwhelmed and understaffed, so no one actually read the application, much less looked into what it meant or if there was a basis to approve it. If they dare to take someone to court over it, it won’t hold up simply because, as I stated above, these are mechanics that have been around for DECADES. As an aside, it would appear that the pet taming/battling they have received copyright for is very specific to ONE of their games and not to pet taming/battling in general. So again, if they took anyone else to court for infringement, they would have to prove that this very specific mechanic had been copied - it would not apply to pet taming/battling in general.
Nintendo does need a good slapdown though, so I hope they do try.
Then drop PvP and Mythic raiding as well. Far fewer people doing that than anything else.
Pet Masters always have people at them when they are up for daily quests. Aside from that, they haven’t added any new raiding with leashes or pet dungeons in years, so yeah if they stop adding content for it participation goes down. Shocker.
Sorry, but I would do the pet battle WQ’s before any others to: Get to the special assignment WQ requirement, get the weekly Meta quest done, get Sparks (PvP), get Bloody Coins (PvP). I would go out of my way to do Pet Battle WQ’s first because I enjoy them 100x more than doing the other WQ’s. I make them different every time. Additionally, I see people doing the same thing I am doing. There IS engagement with the system. What I don’t get is that all they have to do is implement it the same way they have been the last 3 expansions and it would be a minimum resource draw. They’re clearly putting almost nothing into it as it stands and it IS being used.
I won’t collect pets if they don’t do anything. Would people collect mounts if they didn’t run or fly? Honestly I don’t get the xmog collecting, but then again I main Druid most days
Blizzard have issued an update. Basically that bit hadn’t been developed yet (though they are scaling back on it due to lack of engagement: See “Blizzard Comment on Lack of Pet Battle Content in Midnight - Icy Veins”
Edit: original Blizzard post is Forums > In Development >Midnight Alpha Test > Feedback: Pet Battles
The Pet Battle system is being iterated on in Midnight, and changes will continue to come with future Alpha builds.
In the first builds of the Midnight Alpha, we have several goals:
For players who love collecting pets, there should be significant numbers of pets to collect.
For players who love to do pet battle combat, that will be available.
As time has passed, we’ve seen fewer and fewer players enjoying pet battle combat, so this is an area we want to iterate on.
There will be some new pets in Midnight that are capable of battling.
All parts of the pet battle system that were implemented in previous expansions should continue to operate as they have before.
We’re experimenting with some alternate methods to obtain pets in Midnight, and we expect to iterate on that, based on your feedback. Please let us know whether you’re an experienced pet battler or engaging with the system for the first time when you leave feedback.
Yes, because the only thing that can be enforced is what they patented. And what they patented is something that was introduced in the games released in 2022. Specifically, the ‘auto battle’ feature that those games have. Specificity matters, because a patent is specifically for exactly what is patented. Something that’s merely similar to what was patented is not infringing. It has to be exactly like what was patented in order for a patent holder to go after it.
And besides, the time to patent the broad concept of Pokemon has long since passed. That window was roughly 30 years ago. You can’t just retroactively patent something that’s already been iterated on for longer than some of these internet patent lawyers have been alive.
Sadly this isn’t how the WoW General Forums work. It seems most arguments don’t include full context, instead hyper focused on one element of a change without the bigger, or sometimes, factual story.
