Keep the Mystery Alive

I don’t think OP is doing a great job of explaining it (no offense) but I get what they mean. I can be an adventurer, going along with it, helping and giving aid. Before in WoW, that’s what we were, just random adventurers, part of a whole. At some point we kind of became the adventurer, the hero at the center of it.

For some that’s great, for others, not so much. personally I’m with OP though with how the story is this expansion I’m not sure how it would even work. I’d much rather be an average adventurer.

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No you are not. I am. Oh yeah, so also is Noree, and Stompypotato, and Ayrias, and …

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And the 19-39 other guys that were in the raid with you when said boss was killed.

Because at this point we’ve killed 3 old gods, several high ranking demons, and a titan. How would our characters not be involved if something big happens?

You DO realize that the player character being the center of the story in a ROLE-PLAYING GAME is the entire point, right? To that extent, Blizzard IS delivering a solid RPG narrative… It’s only Wednesday or I guess Tuesday when you created this thread - you’re either very late or very early for Sunday.

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Yeah no, I’ve been in better RPG’s with better stories, that didn’t jerk me off all day excuse my french.

They took the world out of the World of Warcraft. When the world was actually the main character, and you were just part of it.

I think they can strike a balance here, however.

We matter, but only as part of a greater whole. We didn’t achieve these things alone - they should emphasize that.

I’ve said it before, but we can be a hero without being the hero. It’s a pretty substantial difference.

So you want like to kill something and have the narrative pretend someone else did it?

I’ve had better stories told about me, and with me that didn’t involve constant ego stroking.

“For some reason, the ward only responds to you champion!”

Yeah, I figured it would do. Make me the leader of the Alliance!

I kind of get it.

For example FFXII had you at the helm of Vaan, but he was in no way the main character, and it panned out really well from a storytelling and interaction perspective.

Asking for Square and Dragon Age quality of storytelling from Blizzard is kind of a moot point though.

I prefer the way story was handled in the early days, where you were the adventurer and not the savior of the galaxy. But that ship has sailed. They couldn’t go back to that in any way that would make sense now. Unless they did some sort of major reset. And I would be open to that. Some future expack where we reset time and we’re in the vanilla days again or something.

But yeah, I think we know that isn’t going to happen, hehe.

Ok,op,if I were to write a story book about you I would’ve seen it through my eyes, yet it was designed to be seen through yours ,and for you, or the story wouldn’t be for you to experience .

The PC is literally the main character. You’re “Red” from Pokemon, you’re “Kratos” from God of War and “Solid Snake” from Metal Gear Solid.

Video games don’t work if you sit it out because the game is the story and if you are just on the side you aren’t participating in the story.

I think you may be more interested in watching a movie.

You DO realize that the player character being the center of the story in a ROLE-PLAYING GAME is the entire point, right? To that extent, Blizzard IS delivering a solid RPG narrative… It’s only Wednesday or I guess Tuesday when you created this thread - you’re either very late or very early for Sunday.

Not true. In WoW classic and BC, you were NOT the center of the story. You were a participant in events unfolding AROUND the central characters. That’s the magic that made the game so enticing. Around WotLK, the focus starting shifting towards the “Champion”.

And this made more sense when the characters were developing. At one time, Batman was a noob. But saying Batman today is just a cog in Gotham is silly. He’s an experienced hero with countless accomplishments under his belt.

I also think you’re not really seeing how things went in Classic or BC as well. Many of the leveling dungeons contain major characters or factions that we kill. We invaded the entire city of Blackrock Depths and killed their king. That’s pretty big. Oh, then we killed RAGNAROS. You think that’s insignificant?

Lets continue. We defeats Nefarian and Onyxia. Onyxia literrally kidnapped the king of Stormwind, created the Defias Brotherhood, and almost destroyed the head of the Alliance. Nefarian was working with the dark Horde, and ready to take over all of Azeroth. We killed freaking Kel’Thazud, one of the MAIN characters of Warcraft III. And we weren’t just “soldiers”, but heros in our own right.

Outland we defeat major lore characters including Illidan. Yeah, we have that thunder stolen away in the end, but we ARE main characters at this point. I get that people have the need to go back to “simpler times” and be noobs again, but it doesn’t make sense narratively in any way that our characters would.

At this point, you want a new game. You cannot be a noob anymore in a game with this much history behind your player character. You are awesome, amazing, and a legend. You’ll have to learn to begrudgingly like it. =)

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To say that would imply that characters actually developed, half of the characters introduced in TBC are now appearing in Shadowlands as apparitions of themselves, what really was accomplished after TBC with all this “champion” nonsense?

It’s funny you mention that because there was a recent leak showing that in the next expansion when we return from the Shadowlands we find that the world is completely at peace. There’s no war, no plagues, no suffering. In fact, Blizzard is using this as a chance to introduce player housing so that we may begin our new adventure, raising a farm. The name of the game will no longer be World of Warcraft but World of Farmcraft. Oh and please note, this farm we raise will not actually be ours as we want to confusion on who is the main focus of this expansion, it is not us…we actually don’t matter as if we fail there will be 10 million other farms in our place

Anything is better than the current line of thinking the Blizzard dev team is on, I mean I just don’t see the point of me being apart of all this, I’m totally down for a good story, I don’t need my ego stroked constantly.