Just stop pulling for tanks

Had a mage in my 19 DoS pulling for me, course its necrotic and I die, all three times he does it. DPS was low so I was spending my cleanses quicker than usual, along with rotating my defensives quicker. So I chose to slow down for a couple up coming pulls just to recover CD’s. Nope, apparently me playing around what I do have and do not have, then making up time down the line with some bigger pulls, wasn’t good enough. So wipe after wipe resulted in a missed timer.

I get it okay, you have to do big pulls in upper keys, regardless of affixes, yet at a fundamental level. The tank dictates the pace for a reason, either being lack of experience or lack of CD’s. In which when you start pulling for them, your hurting the group instead of helping it, given each time I didn’t have a cleanse, and I simply died because I could not control my stacks enough.

This week is rough simply because necrotic is the one affix that you need a ton of control over, instead of being willy nilly with pulls like on other weeks. So please, do not pull for the tank, especially this week. We’re already having a rough enough time controlling stacks, adding on extra trash just makes our jobs harder than it needs to be and forces CD’s out at the wrong times.

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Somtimes my tab target is bad.

I blame blizz.

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It’s the part of the pug experience, dps pulls extra mobs and stands in fire then dies and calls tank and healer trash and leaves.

Best bet, find a guild with people who want to do keys and use voice chat, its the difference between wanting to pull out your hair in frustration and having fun easy keys.

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o_o in a 19 holy cow. I would be livid at the point of a 19 a dps should know better than pull for the tank.

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Blizzard gave me Barrage… I’m going to use Barrage. Good soldiers follow orders.

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DPS set the pace. Tank just follows along.

… the stacks drop. just kite.

I agree that the mage pulling would be obnoxious, but… kite. they drop faster now than they used to.

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Paladin is a wheelchair tank, similar to DK’s, I only have horse every 45 secs so kiting is a bit of challenge at times without a priest to grip or big AoE CC. Not to mention I was planning on being able to tank it, until they pulled more and it forced to me gather it, and incurred more stacks before I could get it under control again. It’s not as simple as kite lul sometimes, some of the trash jumps to you and can apply stacks again that way. There’s a lot to it, and it makes for a time when people start throwing monkey wrenches into it all.

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Buddy, let’s not insult each other, I’m not a hunter.

don’t use your horse this week for getting into point a to point b. Use it for getting away to drop necrotic. Use kleia soulbind as it’ll help you stay in for longer times and have a bop cancel aura. Also use slow concecration. And use your racial before you run away.

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Mages can drop pretty fast when you let them die.

Seriously though, this happens in all content now. I think it’s the same people who think that a chaotic dungeon is the fastest one.

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Both have plenty of tools to kite.

Consecrated Grounds.

If the Mage is Frost, he can live forever on a big AoE pull, between Blizzard and Frozen Orb. On top of doing good damage and helping the tank kite.

Frost Mages pretty dope in M+.

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it’s not been my experience.

does it happen? sure. and I hate it when it does. I’ve been a tank since BC and I’m pretty set in my tank ways. I prefer to orchestrate the pulls. But I wouldn’t say that I encounter a pull-happy dps/healer all that often, and I tank a lot of keys in the 15-22 range (ok well not so much the past 2 months, but before that)

that aside, good mages don’t get hit by the mobs they pull, they have a ridiculous amount of ways to avoid getting hit. if a mage pulls something then face tanks it and dies - that’s a bad player.

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The entire Frost Mage Tower was designed around kiting a couple dozen mobs around without getting hit at all after all.

bonks on noggin

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man as the tank you are in charge there. They need you way more than you need them. My favorite for POS dps is:
“oh you’re pulling for me? have fun in LFG looking for a new group :slight_smile: might take ya 20-40 mins? I’ll be in another group in 5 :slight_smile:

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I always talent into bigger Consecration with 50% slow, especially Necrotic weeks.

You shouldn’t have too much trouble kiting when ya need to.

I also use /cancelaura macro for BoP and Bubble to reset stacks too.

Regardless, I still feel ya. DPS shouldn’t be pulling for tanks. Really ever, unless you ask them.

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Y’know, I remember that this was one of the first topics I read on GD back 12 years ago when I started playing WoW. It’s sort of heart warming that people still post complaints about it.

May I make my perennial suggestion: play will people you know and can trust to at least try to do the right thing. PUG should also be described as PAYOR (Pug at your own risk).

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yea i probably only found 1 dps that’s trigger happy for months now. I dont see them alot. It is annoying this week when you want to reset your phial. You need to be out of combat for a good 2-3 sec after the shades die before it starts a countdown