Just saw The Rise of Skywalker, some posters have put SPOILERS in here, be warned

I don’t hate the new Star Wars but in general Jar-Jar Abrams makes terrible movies. I have yet to figure out why people keep giving him these franchises to ruin. Seriously, name one outstanding thing he has ever done. He makes dumb movies that make less and less sense the more you think about them. Either he is stupid or he thinks his audience is.

Jones Favreau on the other hand has done amazing things with the Mandalorian show. I wish someone at Lucasfilm had the good sense to get him to direct the sequel trilogy instead of JJ.

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I was very young when I saw the first Star Wars in 1976. I remember being amazed at the special effects, excellent story line which grabbed you and held your attention throughout the whole movie, the incredible worlds, inventive aliens, so on.

It was amazing, the 1st time anyone had really seen a production of that tech level. After years of goofy dramas, westerns, some really good movies but they were mostly for adults and deep, not for kids, Star Wars launched a new generation of movies.

I won’t see the newer ones. Last one I saw was where Darth ended up being Luke’s father. I think that one is called Empire Strikes Back but not sure and not looking it up.

I’m going to leave my memories of that movie as sweet as possible and pass on the new stuff but all of you who saw them, I hope you found something enjoyable about them.

Mark Hamill/Luke Skywalker will always be a young man in my mind and Chewbacca will live forever. heh.

Like I said, my favorite part we him getting thrown under the bus.
I realized it about halfway through and went "Holy crap, Abrams just threw him under the Bus.

That being said, the person we REALLY need in charge of Star Wars is Filoni and the writers of the really cool stuff from the EU (Dark Empire, Thrawn, Yuuzhan Vong, Jedi Outcast/Academy, Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2, etc.).

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Movies got affected by woke disease more than games and shows

Why do I care?

As i said i am not a Huge JJ Abrams fan but i did like his Star Trek movies and how he refreshed it with it’s twist on time. I actually think that was his smartest move in any movie he made.

His movies do sometimes have GIANT plot holes as with Episode 7 but i do find i can relax and be entertained as long as i don’t try to shred things. Sometimes you can fill in his plot holes or read about his reasoning afterward.

Either way i think he makes good popcorn movies with some great action. In this particular movie i will give him credit for…resuscitating my joy in a franchise i NEVER THOUGHT would have ever been damaged but was by The Last Jedi. For that i have to give him props and can’t just ding him for everything. I have a LOT OF ANGER about episode 8…that he was able to overcome it and work with it to do something very entertaining and what i could call very good (not perfect or the best SW film but still very good) is impressive in it’s own right. Just my 2 cents.

I only have 1 episode of the Mandalorian under my belt but i will be watching the rest now that i have seen The Rise of Skywalker, but what i did see in that episode i enjoyed and of course his work on Iron Man was great. I think Jon Favreau would be a great choice to helm a new trilogy, he would seem like a good choice.

Overall this trilogy retreads a lot from the original. But this time its done with characters I care about. Rey is awesome, Finn and Peo were great, and the original characters (Luke, Leia and Solo) where 5X more interesting than they were back than.

Going forward I hope they focus more on the Jedi/Sith and the Force like KotoR2 did and leave out the good vs. space fascist with Sith pulling the strings in the background.

I honestly think these trilogy shouldn’t be considered canon, since it just ruins too much stuff about Star Wars and the characters were wasted opportunity and the plot was just really bad

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Just cause, her character was written really poorly and was just another poor attempt of creating a strong female character which was just a Mary Sue in the end, hell her character barely even makes sense.

He would have been much more but ended up being comic relief and having a lot of wasted potential

I think it was Poe, i dont remember much about him tbf but i think he suffered just has much from poor writing

I think Dave Filoni has done a great job with both Clone Wars and Rebels and i think his love of Star Wars shines through. I also think he would be great to helm a new trilogy or even just a couple of stand alone movies.

As far as the EU is concerned, i wish they would not have removed it from continuity all together but am glad that Thrawn has survived and been put back in. Personally would love to see a trilogy with him in it.

I also think that some of the new movies do pull some bits of the stories from the books…without giving anything away. Not sure if it is a nod or just some good story elements borrowed.

I don’t know, why do you care?

I get the sense you are younger which would explain some things. As someone who was 5 years old in 1977 and grew up with Luke Skywalker as the hero of my generation, that might tell you why Ep. 8 makes me so angry.

Having said the stuff above…what got me over the hump about going to Episode 9 is seeing what happens primarily to Rey and Kylo Ren, with some smaller interest in Poe and Finn (i thought Finn should have died in episode 8 to give the story some weight).

I could agree with the Jedi/Sith stories…but won’t expound anymore so i don’t give anything away.

I disagree here, Rebels was a massive downgrade from Clone Wars

It isn’t as good…but remember Disney took over and shut down Clone Wars and wanted something fresh.

Now they seem to be open to some of the mistakes they have made and we are going to get more Clone Wars. I think Dave Filoni made the best of the situation he was in and worked through it. For me at least that he put Thrawn inside Rebels was a HUGE plus and added to the story.

I think left to his devices without Disney coming in and shutting down Clone Wars and removing the EU all together to make way for new stories…the original Clone Wars would have had a more satisfying run, but we didn’t get that. That still doesn’t mean he did a bad job, just that he was forced to do something that struggled a bit to meet the Clone Wars standard.

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We were initially supposed to have a Clone Wars episode where the Vong showed up, thus making them canon.

Kinda wondering if the new final season will have that episode.

I didn’t like The Last Jedi, but in fairness I think the degree to which wokeness was the issue was hugely overstated.

The movie was just dumb - an insult to our intelligence. From Luke’s lightsabre tossing, to Finn being relegated to comic relief, to the pointless casino caper, to Holdo’s poor leadership (which would have been poor regardless of her gender), to the ‘revelation’ that Rey’s parents were no one special, to the stupidest and slowest chase sequence in sf history. It was just dumb scripting all the way through, not wokeness, that really made The Last Jedi the worst of the SW movies to date.

The issue with Rebels is that its really meant for kids but tries to put more adult elements and it just doesnt work well.

For example the confrontation of Ashoka and Vader which was supposed to be a really serious moment but then you have space Aladdin saying something stupid and ruining the moment.

The series rarely ever tries to do what Clone Wards did, which was more deep story, with some episodes even being really dark and meaningful, but Rebels fails to do that since it keeps pushing the kiddy stuff even in serious parts, such has the Ashoka vs Vader like i stated before or the final confrontation between Maul and Obi-Wan.

Basically the show successes has a kids show, but fails has a successor of the Clone Wars series, badly.

Its funny how this word over the years has become nothing but a nebulous concept that can be adjusted to fit an individuals personal dislike for a character at any given moment.

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Sorry, have to disagree strongly with this.

Clone Wars is a generally good series that still occasionally suffers from prequel-itis (Jar Jar Binks, dull galactic politics, and an obsession with explaining SW universe history rather than forging its own story).

Rebels is a much better show, because it understands what SW is - a slightly over-the-top action adventure. It’s targeted at a younger audience than Clone Wars, however, which means that it won’t be to the taste of some adult viewers.

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The new movies are so awful they make the prequels look like 10/10 Emmy winners.

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You would be correct. I’m in my 20’s. I liked Luke in TLJ as this broken man who lost his way and come back from it all a stronger person in the end. The moment Luke tossed that lightsaber over his shoulder I knew I was going to love TLJ.

Ok lets just forget that she beats a Trained killer with a Lightsaber, a weapon she has never ever used

Or that she randomly know how to use Mind Tricks

Or that she defeats a group of guards that could rival Lightsabers users with barely any training (Self training may i add)

Learns how to use the force really easily

Has no good explanation for her being this powerful (And no i dont buy the stupid thing from ROS)

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