Just release 8.2

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And here we are, interesting how successful Residuum has been so far. Imagine if we had more work towards good gear than depending on chance and RNG?
Don’t get me wrong, RNG is good and necessary for MMORPGs but having an entire game focused on it? Yeah, that’s when things get annoying.

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Considering you reference the hype for Classic…

I can’t wait for the currency in Classic that lets you deal with even worse RNG.

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I’m pretty much done. I’m just being stringed along at this point. I want to play Classic and 8.2 so I’m just subbed, just to be subbed. Should I unsub and then resub, then unsub and resub again.

Fix this game

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But you keep asking them not to fix the game. (by just releasing 8.2 now)

Mixed signals!

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You’re right, you don’t. But I’m also not sure what you’re expecting. The current “drought” is nothing compared to some past droughts and I personally wouldn’t even call it a “drought.” Just a standard lull in content patches . . . as is standard.

That is completely untrue, if you left within the current patch, seeing as how the current season, several quest chains, and both raids haven’t even been out that long. And if you left prior? I’m not even sure what to say to that. Unless you consider all of the content of 8.1 and 8.1.5 to be “nothing.”

Just because its content you don’t want to do doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, and Blizzard is never going to be able to cater towards every type of player and ensure that they will never run out of the particular content they enjoy, it just won’t happen.

No, you don’t. You pay 15 a month for access to their game. Nothing more, nothing less. The content of said game and whether it is the type of content you enjoy or not is irrelevant.

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Check my post above. I am not against RNG, but I hate the idea of the game depending completely on it. I know how depending on RNG Classic can be, but at least I know what I will get rather than being “Oh, it Titanforged but it has Versatility and Mastery and no sockets? Shame, I may have used it”.

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But in BoD secondary stats aren’t RNG?

And seriously. People really pretend like they care about TF and sockets way too much.

The only time you care about something having to TF or have a socket is when you hit your skill cap. Example, a person isn’t good enough to raid mythic, so they only raid heroic. After they gear up, instead of pushing into mythic, they are relying on TF/WF drops of heroic.

At some point you either try harder content or realize that anything extra you get is just that…extra.

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How much do you believe 8.2 is going to change in the next 5 weeks of the core mechanics that are intended to fix the problems this expansion has had?

M+ affixes, raid encounters, heroic Stromgarde tuning are going to occupy most of the remaining time, because those are the most recent additions and thus haven’t had weeks of tuning passes.

8.1 5th ring azerite traits were the first attempt to fix the system, and they did little in the grand scheme. So now they’ve shifted focus to the neck and it’s essences, hoping that fixes the problem. Hoping players are so relieved to get all 5 rings of their gear open at the time of the drop, that they forget about the +5 and +10 additional AP levels required to use the new neck to its full potential. Add to that the necessary content required to get the essences players want.

It’s a lot to ask, and for weeks they’ve done little but nerf the essences again and again. The essences that are supposed to fill the holes left in numerous classes and their specs by constant pruning, and zero class design solutions.

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You say that like you have a source saying exactly when 8.2 will hit live, perhaps I have missed something. I wouldn’t mind seeing where you are getting 5 weeks from.

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I think quite a few bugs will be fixed. Possible changes still to some essences for balancing.

I know how much people here like complaining about an unpolished game.

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I already explained this in the discord. :frowning:

Without official announcement nobody knows for sure, but I know we’re in week 20 of S2, and no announcement has been made. So I know S2 is longer than S1, which was only 20 weeks. That makes me believe that Wowhead’s Conquest schedule of 25 weeks for S2 is correct. So, if S2 is indeed 25 weeks, and we’re in week 20 now, there are 5 weeks left.

The most recent Blizzard post says that 8.2 will be the end of S2, and kick off a 2-week interregnum period before the start of S3. So again, if the Conquest schedule of 25 weeks is correct, and there are 5 weeks left, and S2 ends with the release of 8.2, then 8.2 should release in 5 weeks.

TIme will tell, and if I’m wrong I’ll own that.

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Yes, I agree with you, the extra becomes just extra. You feel good for a matter of seconds then you just forget you ever got that.
When was the last time you got a gear and you went “Holy F* I can’t believe I finally got this”. I say this as someone that only started playing WoW by the very end of WoD(Used to be a Runescape player) I never felt that, for me gear is just drop that increase my numerical rating, that being my ILV.
I am happy that you are enjoying BFA and you think things are fine, but this game feels less and less like an MMORPG and more like a Casino each expansion.

Also, about the Mythic raiding, I think I’ve only seen one guild on ED, Alliance that actually is progressing, of course there are probably more, but they aren’t recruiting. But after you get Mythic progression then what? You just farm the raid every week to gear up every guild member to get an easier time next raid tier.

I don’t know, I may just be a fan of old MMORPG formula and you’re right, or there is indeed a problem in the very roots of WoW.

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Dude, expansion has almost been out for a year and that list is pitiful aside from the new raid

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Scripted fights are scripted fights. Remove raid level gear from dungeons and watch half the “Mythic” raiders drop like flies.

But yes, people like the current game that rewards gear over skill. :woman_shrugging:

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It is and streamers are playing Classic and having fun which is kind of throwing salt on the wound tbh

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What does Classic have to do with the state of retail and how, if anything, 8.2 will save or doom this expansion?

Also, you’d be happy to play Classic right now, then have your character wiped when beta is over, and do it all over again? Personally I wouldn’t find any fun in that, considering how slow leveling in vanilla content was.

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Once we get Classic and 8.2, this game might be worth a sub again. Kind of stoked tbh. But right now, no

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I never said everything is fine…sheesh. Calm down there.

https://www.wowprogress.com/pve/us/emerald-dream/rating.tier23

24 Alliance guilds with at least 1 mythic BoD kill. I am sure they don’t all have recruiting closed.

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8.2 is still going to be a buggy mess when it releases, but things would be much worse if they rushed it out the door to appease the content locusts.

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you act like that crap matters to everyone… but yeah, i probably do have just about everything regardless, just from playing my alts.

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