Just Guild Leader things. WoW Direct literally made me ultra depressed

‘trying’ to ‘kill’ classic is a bit of stretch, they just don’t care about Cata’s dwindling numbers as much as the brief-but-profitable rush of attention they get everytime they re-re-relaunch classic and some streamer gets a bunch of people to resub for 3 months.

don’t worry too much, your guild will experience the same cycle and you’ll have rosters overflowing with hype-train-jumpers once MOP classic is imminent.

Infelt thr exact same way when sod came out. I had been running my guild for 2 years at this point.
People were excited for sod. I personnly cannot play more then 1 version of the game at a time. Everyone said ya we will continute raiding innwrath and do sod. And that slowly trickles to them never logging back on until sod sucked so bad they all migrated back. But the guild was already dead by that time
I am glad people get tonplay what they want to play. But with this many damn versions of the game the communities are so fractured and splintered. And im sure the guild im in now is about to fall apart again. Andnits depressing

Too many choices makes you feel like you have no choice at all…

Imagine being a guild leader in retail…

Can I have your gold

although i get the sentiment , at the end of the day these servers are not meant to be “forever servers” these are progression servers , complete the content and move on .

Which seems to be what people want.

They don’t want static vanilla forever servers.

Cata and mop doesnt matter theyll stop at mop and allow transfers to retail with all the items gained over the years to fill mog logs. The new fresh servers are proof.

New fresh servers will do the same and rinse and repeat money generator

Yuck… I’d rather go back to Ultima Online.

The pessimistic tinfoil hat wearing part of me agrees with you. It looks logical that Blizz is gearing up for MoP and then xfer to retail, the somewhat random MoP remix could have been a beta-ish test to see how the backend handles.

The optimistic part of me says that there are many old forum threads declaring that (insert xpac here) would be the last, but they’ve kept on rolling along regardless of the nay-sayers.

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Thats the fun part.

The rage threads to come. And at the 6 month mark…the requests for new new fresh. Its now 3rd run, people will be really good at making that money lol. Or 5th…I will throw in the SOM and SOD vets there lol.

I come for tbc again. and will play mop, then wod. Its not a marriage I can split time 3/3 and see who gets day 7. Or play a steam game that day.

Fresh will kill Cata and SoD. Can’t wait to see the numbers in a few weeks.

It’s just a TBC waiting room…

I can definitely understand this struggle. Here are some ways we took a different approach than most.

We have 3 GM’s (myself and 2 others that are very trusted) I personally hold the true gm role in game but we made a co-gm role that has all the same perms for in game and discord.

We do loot council and have 5 people that discuss and vote. (All roles and our most knowledgeable players)

We run a rotating bench being we have around 28-30 active raiders.

We are 25m focused on weekends and run 3-4 10s per week.

Guild repairs, feasts, potions and flasks are all provided for all raids.

We sell alts boes at 50% ah price from the gbank. Main raiders get boes free if the drop and are an upgrade.

We track attendance and anyone below 80% is prioritized lower by loot council.

We track number of items to players so we aren’t just juicing out “favorites”.

We release FL staff priority lists 1 month in advance so people know who is getting what with a full list planned behind closed doors held by loot council of current full t12 staff order if nothing changes.

We are a community first guild, we do not tolerate being an jerk to people, showing up drunk and yelling at people, or general clowning around. We focus on everyone having a good fun raid with lots of laughs.

There will always be drama in guilds no group will be perfect having reliable people to lean on and remaining calm when talking to anyone is key.

We are currently in the top 25 for firelands in mankirk and I couldn’t be happier with the amazing team we have all became.

Hope this helps :slight_smile: may not fit your team to the T but this made us a healthy team.

Rotating raid leaders when they need a breather is a good idea as well they truly have the hardest job in my opinion.

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They are worried a ton will quit when MoP comes out. They can’t really seem to get retail to feel like classic since they lack and honesty about their problems. So just release classic…again. I am not sure I’ll play MoP since I didnt like the little I tried but I am definitely not doing 1-60 again for at least another decade.