Join a guild, seriously

Despite all your excuses, literally hundreds of thousands of people, if not more, are able to accomplish this on a consistant basis.

You are either willing to set goals and work towards them, or you make excuses and succumb to jealousy and self pity.

I think you missed my point.

How you define success or failure depends on you as a person, and it can always be subject to change.

I would say join my guild, but I’m not sure I want this type of acute pessimism around.

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To get into the NBA? No, no they shouldn’t. You have to have extreme athletic ability to have a chance at that.

The idea that everyone who works at it, could get into the NBA, is extremely toxic.

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A culture of convenience and scarce accountability fostered by Internet anonymity. Of course, it’s easy to sit there and scold us for not trying harder when you got yours, everyone else be darned.

Finding a good guild nowadays is worse than finding a good therapist. You have to do an enormous amount of trial and error to sift through the multitudes of rubbish guilds out there that either exist solely to prop up a lazy and selfish guild leader or exist because someone is excited about a new expansion but then doesn’t commit. Either that or start raid logging and apply to a hardcore one. That’s not a good answer for most players. It’s never “just” join a guild.

The fact that “just join a guild” is such a meme these days and the fact that Blizzard is catering more and more to solo play speaks volumes about how out of touch that argument is. The player isn’t the common denominator. The player is being acted upon by a common culture of most guilds failing to be a guild.

Your point ended up dividing it into 2

I’m aware, I even bolded it. Here, I’ll even repeat it …

I still stand by what I’ve said. Its not a choice for more than you are apparently aware of. ‘Most’ is the wrong word to use.

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Uhh what kind of content were you doing? Because that sounds like a common trend and in my experience that kind of thing only happens if they are progging and need to put some people on the bench because they are vastly underperforming and don’t want to stagnate the entire group’s night for a handful of people who were unprepared OR you were in guild’s that had a high expectation for performance and you simply didn’t meet that.

Who said that everyone who works at the goal achieves it? I certainly didn’t. Even what you quoted by me says the exact opposite.

The point is that the ones who did manage to achieve it worked for it. They just didn’t stomp their feet and demand how life wasn’t fair until someone just gave it to them.

You call them “excuses” in a sad attempt to attach negative connotations to the reality of the situation many people are in. You’re also still conflating the difficulty of finding such solutions with one’s desire to do so.

It’s these types of sad attacks that only serve to prove my point that you have absolutely no grasp of the nuances of the subject and are more interested in just sticking your fingers in your ears and going lalalalalala.

At the end of the day, it would appear that Blizz agrees with me on this subject as proof by the pivot to more solo type play. They have the numbers. We don’t.

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Is English your first language?

They are excuses, no matter how many intelligent words you tag and how big of sentences you make.

Reddit level logic. I’m assuming you spend a lot of time over there with other people being professional victims.

And I also see you’re only interested in trolling this thread. Now that that’s been confirmed for all to see, I can put you on ignore and move on since you obviously have no interest in discussing the topic in good faith.

:wave:

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What is there to discuss? I already am in a good guild and we’re also looking for people. But you have an attitude that no one would want in a guild so yeah… No wonder.

I’ve even offered for people on here to join if they want.

So instead of being part of a solution, they plug their ears like a 5 year old, good job!

Intelligent words and big sentences? Thanks for the compliment, but I’m just a random, publicly schooled, college dropout.

I was talking to the other guy… Yeah the IQ levels in here must be super high. No wonder none of you are in guilds.

Nobody forced you to engage with me. That’s entirely on you, and yet you chose to do it multiple times. So either you just enjoy arguing, or you have a serious lack of self control.

People are very good at convincing themselves the world is out to get them and that they can’t join guild’s because people are already friends with each other or something and cannot be helped unfortunately. They’ll either continue that way for the entirety of their time playing the game, or be shown it after they see what a good guild raid run actually looks like.

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Oh ok, when you directly reply to someone, it will show in the posting, If it just shows up directly under someone without a specific reply tag, then they might assume you are just replying to the last post.