Not a single person in the NBA had that opportunity given to them. Each and every single one of them earned it.
Even the ones who worked for it and didn’t succeed still weren’t total failures.
You’re viewpoint seems to be that anyone who isn’t perfect shouldn’t even try.
That’s not how it is generally used, at all. Mostly, it is ‘be less poor’.
I’m not gonna assume that’s what you meant tho. Not right away, at least.
This isn’t the place to discuss how poverty is a societal choice, not an individual one.
To the earlier point, it’s not as easy as just finding a guild. It’s finding a good community that has a guild. Not easy, no. but doable and worthwhile.
I never said it was black and white, I just said the opposite of that, for crying out loud.
And that’s what I said. Did you not read? …
Are there really that many people on these forums that just like to fight about everything, Jebus Cristo.
You have narrowed in on some random people’s viewpoints who offended you and let it define the entire subject for you.
You have to learn to filter that stuff out and become a goal oriented person. There is literally no other way to succeed than to make a goal and accomplish it.
So then just ignore me if you’re going to hide behind some random low level alt?
And after reading more… all I can say is yikes, and bye.
So I hear what you are saying but Guilds can be fairly toxic themselves.
Usually it’s a small tight knit circle of people that have known each other for awhile. The people they recruit are merely a means to an end.
Just remember how this started, you asked a question here, and I answered that question.
There’s a point where you need to sit down and figure out what the common denominator was.
Stalin was a real leader. Single minded and all. And look at all the great things he accomplished!
True words.
Or maybe I lost my legs overseas. Maybe that? Would that not trigger you? Maybe stop being quick to judgements and think that you know the reasons behind someone else’s behavior. Walk a mile in their shoes. Unless of course you have no freaking legs and, in that case, sorry if it triggers you.
Kidding. Not really sorry. No, no, I am. Kidding.
Also true. I’m in a couple guilds right now. They invited me during Remix. I know I’m the poor fit though. Nothing drastic, I just do not have what it takes to put into it. So I get what I put in, zero, and I’m not disappointed.
I would join your guild for the perks. And the inevitable repartee, but I’ve heard about your guild.
Finding a SON? What the hell man. Wow, just really?
Also, I’m up for adoption if you’re still looking.
Dude. We’ve been over this. THINK MAN! THINK!
Wow. That’s an absolute falsehood. A lie. Hundreds of thousands of people a day get carry out nuggets. You ain’t special.
I can. Ask me anything. I’m a pharmacy tech. Honest.
I’d heard that about you. I bet one guild only sees you in cat form and the other in resto. You saucy druid you!
lol right on man! Kidding. You’re wrong. That isn’t what it means. It means to take responsibility for your life and the things you actually have control. You will likely disagree with this, but that’s okay. For me. Not okay for you. Good Luck!
On some level this is true. For most though it isn’t. It is a choice. It can be agonizing, it can be a long process, but it all come down to choices. But it is true that for whatever reason some people are incapable of making that choice to change.
And yah sure, if you have an IQ under 90, you’re kind of getting the super short end of life. Safe to say though that most of the posters here are safely above 90. Contrary to what some of you may think.
I get you.
It’s a rabbit. oooooo wait you said ‘person’. Okay you got me. Bad Guild! Bad!
And my heart, rabbit. And my heart.
And look at all the FUN we had along the way!
Thank you all for posting. I had a great time!
Peace to all!!!
Son’s a therapist. Trust me, its not a choice, some can’t, and need help. Especially those who have mental AND drug issues. And its more than you think, its not just talked about openly because of social stigmatism.
If everybody could just not be so absolutist and hardass’d the world would be a better place.
I couldn’t have said it any better.
Finding a guild that fits is easier said than done.
to a certain extent it takes a “clique” to start a guild, leading a guild as a solo act is a really bad idea as it means you have almost no officers and you’re in charge of the raid leading, recruiting, organizing. everything is your responsibility as a guild master at that point and most will just end up quitting at that point, running a guild takes more than one if it’s honestly going to run well.
No, you’re dismissing it.
Joining a guild is a band-aid. This doesn’t solve the problem,it ignores it and pretends it doesn’t exist. People need to be better, period. There’s no reason to be so toxic all the time, it’s a game. But more important, this toxicity comes when we attempt to engage our fellow players in the most MMO part of the MMORPG, the pug.
Whether it is built in LFG, a randomly build LFR or LFD, or we shout in /2 for hours, pugs are painfully toxic. However, they are also the only option for a large portion of the player-base BECAUSE they don’t have the time to commit to guild runs (because a lot of people having to use these means are, indeed, in guilds already), or their schedule doesn’t align with the guild, or they can only commit to quick tasks like a few bosses in LFR.
Whatever the reason, pugging is a necessary evil for many. So, simply joining a guild doesn’t change the issue they face. What does this mean? It means those “nice” guildies don’t factor. It means those toxic pugs are the only option for group content. It means you are ignoring the problem.
People need to stop acting like every time they play the game they are in a televised competition. They need to stop expecting pugs, of all things, to have elite, TOP GUN caliber players with insane gear. Of all the options in WoW for grouping, pugs should have the lowest skill expectations and a mindset of “doing it for fun”.
Your 2 am run of BC time-walking is not garnering you a sponsorship from Monster or Logitech so get off your elitist throne. That’s what these players need to understand.
And telling everyone else to just “join a guild” excuses those elitists and toxic jerks, giving them a free pass to continue their poor behavior and pretend their feces smells like roses. Honestly, could you be any more tone def or oblivious to the problem?
Tons of excuse making in here, really sad.
And that’s the strawman. Nobody here is saying don’t help yourself. Which is what you seem to think I’m saying.
What I’m actually saying is that it’s just not that simple to blithely say “go find a guild” or “go get some friends”.
Things that your “argument” (like the OP’s) completely fails to account for when telling people such flippant arguments:
And that was just a few things I can think of off the top of my head. I’m sure there are many more nuances I’m forgetting.
Again, nobody here is saying that if you actually did find a group of friends or a socially active, friendly and engaging guild, that your ability to participate in the games content wouldn’t go up massively, not to mention your enjoyment therein. Nobody here is ever gonna say that. What we are saying is that the barrier to entry for any number of the aforementioned reasons or combination thereof is a massive hurdle that statements like “just find a guild” become totally reductionist. If you can get lucky enough to get over that hurdle, that’s great. But methinks the vast majority do not. Else why is Blizz trying to pivot to solo players more and more (delves), more outdoor content etc?
No, read carefully. I said, ‘for most’. I did not say ‘for all’ and I didn’t speak in absolute terms.
You can still find a guild to do M+ with people, you don’t need a “time commitment”.
I like that post there are a lot of good observations and thoughts in there.
Bwhahahaha, life is not a coin it does not have two sides, it has many