Lying… that word doesn’t mean what you think it means lol.
You have literally been misquoting me multiple times.
rolleyes
If the market value is below the cost of labor, the sellers won’t sell. Basic economics.
In this instance, cost is whatever the player feels like is sufficient to justify their time spent. Obviously some items aren’t farmed because the value the market is willing to pay for the items is lower then the majority would be willing to farm for.
That’s the thing though, driving prices down may not have a net positive effect on the economy. While it may seem like prices are lower for some products, they might be higher for others. Multi-boxers are able to pay for a massive amount of accounts by purchasing tokens from gold they made selling herbs. A lot of gold purchased from token sales is just funneling to the most wealthy in the game.
This leaves players at the bottom with few avenues for producing gold and just forces them into the same cycle as others… which is buy tokens to sell for gold.
you are flat out lying at every corner. First you come up with some made up number of 3 posts in the last month, which isn’t true. Then you keep redefining what you ‘really’ meant.
I didn’t have 3 posts in the last month that talked about nerfing nodes. That makes you a liar.
This is really pretty simple man. You make something up that isn’t true and that makes you a liar.
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Yeah brings back memories of that Draenei mage who used to spam LFR threads every single day back during Mop, and Wod lol. Same arguments constantly nothing new was ever added to those discussions. Much like these threads, nothing new, just the same crud being spewed back, and forth. The cm’s finally got tired of that mages spam, and started removing his spammed threads. Guess he got a forum ban also, because it was a long time before he posted in general discussion after that. I mean, if you want to post about something you disagree with, or don’t like about the game fine, but keep it confined to one thread.
look man…
I had two other replies total that I mentioned something about nodes in the last month. I didn’t say anything about nerfing and both replies were weeks ago.
That is hardly spam. They weren’t my threads and I was only outlining the reason why there was an increase in multi-boxers after WoD.
This thread was already reported and restored. There is nothing spammy about it.
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A thinly veiled thread title doesn’t make it less spammy. Pretty sure everyone that saw the thread title knew what you were talking about, and what the topic was aimed at. Guess you got away with fooling a mod, so here’s a 
for you
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It’s not thinly veiled at all. I literally say exactly what the point of the thread is in the second paragraph. The only people spamming here are the apologists… which a mod already removed a bunch of flagged responses.
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These threads are the best.
“This house is on fire and something should be done”
“I’m going to need to see proof of that”
“Here is a video of the flames, and it feels really hot in here!”
“Those are your observations, I want proof.”
“Well, I don’t have access to a thermometer”
“Then there is no proof and therefor no discussion to be had.”
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It is amusing. One thing though - there is no actual proof that multi-boxers harm the economy. The observational issues make no sense when you actually examine the facts.
Alot of multi-boxers are goblins / individuals with TSM. Those type of people don’t normally spam post herbs below market and crash the economy (unless they crash the market on purpose to buy up all the cheap herbs and flip, but that has nothing to do with multi-boxing).
A true multi-boxer has no incentive to crash the market.
Especially given the fact that undercutting is not required now.
Who is the only “person” that benefits from undercutting? Bots.
That’s just a fact. Bots have to sell their goods asap and xfer the gold before they get banned.
There is ample evidence that the “multi-boxers” people complain about are in fact bots and not multi-boxers.
This post would make alot more sense if it focused on bots… but it did not.
Just another “Multi-Boxing is bad” thread.
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It’s amusing that there is no proof to support the claim they are good for the economy. What we do see is lower prices that have made it more difficult for the solo player to compete with multi-boxers.
You can’t in one hand claim that they are helping lower prices while also saying that everyone’s a winner. Pick one.
This is hilarious. Seriously laughing as I read this. The very first thing you say is is there is no proof…
Then you make a claim that ‘they don’t normally spam post herbs…’ You want to offer some proof for such a ridiculous claim?
No true Scotsman eh. Awesome argument. These guys only want whats best for everyone!
Nah, pretty much anyone that wants to sell things.
Please provide that ample evidence. We’ll wait.
That’s because it is bad. Sorry you and the other apologists disagree.
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I don’t believe I ever claimed multi-boxers were good for the economy.
If I did I was wrong. (They have marginal impact (if any impact at all).
The only potential market that multi-boxing activities would impact greatly is the xmog market.
I’ve always believed (and stand by) the opinion that multi-boxers have nearly no impact on the economy.
This is hilarious. Seriously laughing as I read this. The very first thing you say is is there is no proof…
Then you make a claim that ‘they don’t normally spam post herbs…’ You want to offer some proof for such a ridiculous claim?
There is an entire multi-boxing, goblin, and TSM community with many people overlapping. Just because you are not part of those groups does not mean they don’t exist.
Nah, pretty much anyone that wants to sell things.
Can you explain this? New AH literally gives ZERO incentive for undercutting.
It’s last in, first out. Which means cancel scanning and reposting for the same price is just as effective as undercutting. You get zero added benefit to the selling speed for undercutting… unless you substantially undercut.
But if you substantially undercut someone is going to buy out out and repost.
Please provide that ample evidence. We’ll wait.
I’ve seen at least one person say they reported a multi-boxer and got a message that they were banned.
That’s because it is bad. Sorry you and the other apologists disagree.
And posting the 99999th topic about it is still spam 
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Depends on the demand of the item. Sometimes reposting is bad especially if you keep getting undercut.
Agreed… but in that case you wouldn’t repost with a lower price either.
It’s a tactic. Keep posting one item at and undercut rate the other posters don’t like lol. It has happened to me.
AMEN!!! NOW IF WE CAN GET ALL REPLIES IN CAPS AND ENOUGH “LIKES” THIS MAY GET THE ATTENTION OF BLIZZARD “AND” THEY MIGHT DO SOMTHING ABOUT MULTI-BOXERS PREVENTING THE REST OF US FROM GATHERING THE MATS WE NEED. SCREWED UP: ALCHY, HERBING, MINING AND B-SMITH AND JEWEL CRAFTING, INSCRIP. TO NAME WELL MOST OF THE PROFESSIONS… THEY (BLIZZARD) WONT, WHY? ITS BECAUSE TO BOX YOU HAVE TO OWN MULTIPLE ACCTS. HENCE “OWN” , PAY REAL $ FOR, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT IS MONEY PROFITS SO THEY WILL NOT TOUCH THIS. SORRY TO SAY. Now my expression is noted. I own 1 account and hava to farm my materials in the wee hours of EST time zone. For instance 12am to 3am EST Stormrage server. Just to get what I need/desire. This was an issue back in vanilla the REAL vanilla. Still is today. Blizz will NEVER prevent boxing cause the accounts are PAID for in real Currency. Reporting a boxer has few replies these days due to limited GM/Moderators in-game. Just keep reporting is all we can do.
Oh I know… but in that case you are not undercutting to sell but for other reasons entirely 
Which was my point.
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: / lowering the market value of items to make farms not worth it : /
But that might make buying out mats for other professions more profitable!
The point I was trying to make… these “multi-boxing is bad” threads often argue two contradictory points. 1) Multi-boxing crashes the economy, and 2) People that multibox gain an unfair advantage / make alot of gold.
If people multi-box for an advantage… why would they crash the market and diminish that advantage?
Both arguments contradict one another.
I mean all it does it makes one person richer. That are paying for 10 accounts. 7 of Those accounts get to benefit from a big vanity item purchase. And it does impact the economy no more then 10 people of the same posting type. Basically it inflates competition but gives one person all the profit. And if they know what they are doing they can affect a market that benefits them and hurts others. But anyone can hurt the market. All we have to ask is how much time are people willing to spend for a certain amount of profit. And those that undervalue there profit can hurt items with bad sale rates. Sure you can flip those items sometimes and get a good profit. Depending on the server you have to have the knowledge to do that. I think multiboxing isn’t fair compared to a person who only pays for one account. But I do think they can help you in some ways like crafting stuff for yourself. It’s when you want to make gold that they are a great nuisance.
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Except that this is a virtual world - so the basics in terms of “minimal labor costs” don’t barter because the multiboxers aren’t herbing to put food on the table.
They still farm when prices are low.
The law of supply and demand still applies though. Their supply decreases prices and if the enough people being from those, the competition will drive those crafted prices down as well. Especially with the recent server mergers.
I’d rather see multiboxing take a hit and sharding/phasing get slapped down, make it competitive, but also more valuable in the process.
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