That’s literally how people act on these forums whenever they encounter a bug or a minor issue.
They freak out like it’s the end of the world. “How DARE the developers not catch this bug that inconveniences ME! I shouldn’t be seeing bugs in a game I pay $15 a month to play!” and then when people like myself rightly point out that every WoW patch and expansion for 20 years has had bugs in it, they go into full denial mode and act like THIS patch is the worst thing they’ve ever seen, END OF STORY!!
They deserve the ridicule they get if they’re going to memory hole the past while setting the bar so high that no game development team could ever clear it.
No, that’s just how you approach every discussion in which the word “bug” turns up. Aggressively burning down strawmen. Calling people stupid. Clearly triggered by the subject.
This appears to be projection as well. As that is what you are doing in response to people highlighting bugs/exploits.
Anyone streaming bugs is likely going to cop a ban.
Blizzard has banned folks plenty of times for exploiting bugs. In fact, one of the former developers for Blizzard flat out says if you follow the mantra “Exploit early, exploit often.” if you’re not getting banned immediately, you’re put on a watch list so minor infractions you might do later will result in a harsher penalty.
So in this case, they’re going to have to roll back about 300 timed keys, approx 50+ prog kills (which affects more than just the abuser), and they’re leaving it running longer so those numbers will grow.
Don’t worry man. I’m sure that all of those exploiters will be handed down a juicy 4 day suspension and allowed to keep their rating and drops. They will surely learn their lesson!
Oh they won’t do roll backs. They’ll just ban folks.
If people are legit exploiting the game to the point where they’re getting major advantages, they’ll just get permabanned. Since it’s likely that they’re the types of players who have exploited before and so they’re already being watched.
First thing Blizzard is going to do is fix the exploit.
I mean this isn’t an acceptable fix, this seasons title in now potentially broken and out of reach for certain spec/classes without big tuning adjustments or rollbacks.
I understand this doesn’t effect every player, but it doesn’t mean it isn’t a massive problem.
They would only be permabanned if it was enough to send a message but not enough to hurt their bottom line anyhow.
If enough people are doing it then chances are very good that no punishments will be handed down at all. It’s all a balancing act. If they are going to lose more $ by punishing people than they will lose if they don’t…then they aren’t going to punish people.
Rollbacks affect EVERYONE. You can’t just rollback for one person, two people or a select group. A rollback will erase everyone’s progress made between when the rollback is issued and when they roll it back to. Which is why Blizzard rarely does them ( I think I can count on one hand, maybe two the amount of times Blizzard has done a server rollback in 20 years).
So no, they won’t rollback the server, erasing everyone’s progress, that ain’t happening.
They will remove anything earned via exploits from the offenders if they’re not getting permabanned (you don’t get to keep anything you got through exploits, ever). If they’re getting permabanned they lose everything anyway.
Nope, that’s not how a permaban works. If you get slapped with a permaban you lose everything attached to that account. You can’t access it, no additional licenses allows you to keep anything from that account. It’s all gone. You broke the rules to the point where Blizzard has decided that your account can no longer access their service, so anything earned by that account is gone as well.
If you create a new account, with a new license, you start fresh, with absolutely nothing earned, no mounts, no achievements, no warband bank contents, nothing.
So they what, remove the M+ time and mythic achieve from just the outlaw/ele?
That’s not even a fix, the other people are complicit, and a lot of the groups ARE doing it intentionally, but what about the 1s who genuinely joined a pug and didn’t know?
Removing the kills/timed runs from all of the accounts with 1 of them in the group is sadly the only real “fix”, and you’re likely right it’s not doable.
So we’re 6 weeks into the season and it’s dead then, what a great expansion.
They will scrub the affected players from the leaderboards, yes. That’s what they’ve done in the past when people have exploited and been banned. Assuming it’s not a permaban, they will also lose any currencies, loot, etc that they gained while exploiting.
And yes, that goes for people in the group as well, even if they were not aware of the exploit. They were complicit, so they also get banned/punished. Blizzard has literally banned entire raid teams because one member of the raid was abusing a bug and the rest of them benefited from it.
Bugs are common sure but not the volume we are seeing now. Worse seems they fix one thing and th b somehow break several unrelated things. There is an obvious lack of talent in the staff there right now and a complete lack of QC
Yeah that happens all the time and it’s happened before in past expansions/patches.
Especially the ‘fix one thing and something else breaks’ issue. That’s something that happens a lot in coding a game and any game developer will tell you that it is one of the most frustrating things about the job. They’ll try to fix one thing, and by patching that code it creates a failure state somewhere else.
It’s why some bugs, especially minor ones that don’t affect that many people don’t get fixed. Because when they try to fix those bugs, it creates more severe problems that affect more people, so they just leave that bug alone and keep the more important things intact.
You know that scene in Ice Age where the squirrel keeps trying to plug holes with his fingers and toes to stop water pouring out? Yeah, that’s a perfect representation of that issue. Sometimes it’s just better to leave the water coming out of one spot where it doesn’t really hurt anyone, rather than trying to plug that hole and create a larger one somewhere else.