"it's not cheating or an exploit, it's a clever use of game mechanics which Blizz tolerates and actually encourages"

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Found an exploiter

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Indeed, I like the games I play to be free of cheaters after all. I suppose I can’t help it that Blizzard is greedy and players like you are pretentious.

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1v1 us. ^.^

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No you jackalope. He asked if it was okay to continue the CURRENT RUN. He didn’t do anything further.

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It’s true, blizz generally stands behind the reps decision, but it doesn’t make the rep’s decision the correct one.

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esfand is forever going to be known as that guy with a friend at blizz that let him exploit.
lore is going to be known as that guy at blizz that lets streamers exploit and tries to cover it up with a lie about a 2004 bug. [its pretty obvious that was layering and not the cascading issue]

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I’m going to explain this for you in a way you can understand just in case you aren’t trolling.

What happened was not an exploit. It was a bug. A bug that was gotten accidentally and they had no idea how it happened. Before continuing they asked if it was okay to continue after a bug happened.

Blizzard told him that it was a bug that already existed in vanilla wow, and so long as they don’t purposefully exploit it’s fine. That’s what they did. The difference between a bug and an exploit is intent.

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Why is this bug happening so often apparently now?

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True, esfand isn’t the culprit, it was the supposed GM.

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Because vanilla was actually a very buggy game, but they weren’t happening on a macro level with thousands of viewers all seeing the same bug at the exact same time.

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ome facts.

I will lay them out for you so that you can understand, okay?

  1. Esfand obtained 2 weeks of raid gear in one lock out.
  2. Esfand 100% knows that as he confirmed in stream.
  3. They reported the “Bug” to a GM.
  4. They were allowed to keep the gear even though they used said bug to obtain the gear knowing it was wrong.
  5. Blue confirms that they werent abusing the bug “because they reported it”. So its cool.

Is that simple enough for you to understand or do I need to draw it out in crayola for you?

Just because you were told that you can do something does not mean that you can’t be held accountable if it is immoral or criminal. That is what we like to refer to as integrity.

A GM CLEARLY made an awful mistake and Esfand took advantage of that.

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here’s the thing, everyone agree its a bug, no doubt about that right, so for me it just doesn’t make sense if they have the privilege to keep to loot, its like Blizzard is defending and giving permission to streamers to cheat, abuse, and exploit

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Ah yes I forgot we all played with our heads in the dirt with no forums, irc channels.

You’re right this makes sense.

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Nah, we had morse code, beep beep boop beep.

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It happened as late as two years ago.

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Old vanilla forums moved 100x faster than they do these days also :frowning:
I remember having an alive server specific forums… good times…

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It’s good to know ignorance of the law enables you to break it without consequence. :grinning:

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I guess we all just got the green light to ‘‘cleverly use the game mechanics’’. Kewl.

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  1. Figure out how to do it
  2. Do it
  3. Report to the GM
  4. ezzzzzzzzzz layer loot “”"""""""“2004 bug loot”""""""""" yummy
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BFA didnt even have THESE problems lol.

I guess they got something right with BFA.