It Really Is Starship Troopers All Over Again

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But yet, invading Azj-Kahet and the City, you end up killing non-Sureki and most definitely angering The Severed Threads, all 3 of their leaders because you would wind up making such a mess of everything.

The story writers SHOULD have had you helping the Arathi up until you get to Ajz-Kahet and then have you go to the Weaver for her help to systematically eliminate the rest of the Sureki from the shadows while in their lands and their city.

Rather than, you know, marching in with an army and just destroying everything in your path because the Arathi don’t know the difference between Sureki and Non-Sureki.

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The Weaver is busy actually picking up the pieces after Ansurek’s fall so I doubt she could help much.

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The Severed Threads needed force. We were that force. They understood innocents would die, and decided that getting rid of Ansurek was worth the loss.

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Yeah, but now that Ansurek is dead, do you think they want a huge army of zealots bursting in laying waste to anything that stands in their way?

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The Sureki, or rather The Nerubian Empire, seem to have been at war with the Arathi from the moment they arrived. Which was before Xal’atath. Which means that it was under Neferess that the Nerubians started to press in on Hollowfall.

Neferess is framed a prudent and just ruler so I wonder under what circumstances she decided to go to war against the Arathi refugees.

There’s probably more here than either side is telling.

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I guess it best not to think too hard about it.

The Arathi continuing to fight makes no sense. They have access to the surface and can return home - something they have been trying to do for decades.

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All Aqir and their descendent fork species are evil at a genetic level. There is no hope of lasting friendship with them. Their ultimate purpose is to be stomped underfoot, like the roaches they are.

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I am convinced that the movie is a government psyop to stop people from reading the book. It’s too critical of Western Democracies, and if people took it too seriously then they might start asking questions.

Anyway, the only good bug is a dead bug!

Edit: I do think the novel is a masterpiece of science fiction. It’s an interesting society that makes you ask important questions about sacrifice and the value of an individuals life. “Men are not potatoes!”

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Again, you need force to do that. The Severed Threads don’t have much of a choice.

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Yet another plot hole, yes.

The Arathi don’t need to huddle around Beledar. I know they’ve come to love the thing after the years they’d been there, but they have access to the real sun and don’t have to worry about it turning dark and having to deal with kobyss and such.

My point is, it’s a bit of a plot hole for the Severed Threads to not be angry at the player who is helping the Arathi to indiscriminately kill all Nerubians, lol

Oh, and you’d think they’d also cut any ties with Dornogal and get rid of the portal too since Dornogal is allied with the Arathi.

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It’s hard telling if that’s also a viable option. Those who fled from the Nerubian Empire were branded as traitors. Anub’arak himself is labeled as a Traitor King before his own kingdom was demolished by the Scourge.

History is showing that ‘down’ is often not a good place to go. Black Blood being so prominent is also possibly a bit of a dissuading factor.

Probably! Wouldn’t be the first time, but I know I was curious about a lot of things involving this upcoming event, and, well, it continues. :stuck_out_tongue:

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But they’re not? They’re just killing the Sureki.

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If you think that marching into the City with an army isn’t going to kill a bunch of “innocents” (read: non-Sureki) then you have no idea how war and invasion of a city works.

When you invade a city, civilians/non-combatants WILL die. It’s inevitable.

That’s why The Severed Threads always had you doing stealth missions and targeted assassinations in the city instead of just rampaging around in there.

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Whatever passages exist between Kahet and Nerub we can infer two things:

1: They are substantial enough that Anub Arak felt the Kahetti could move a large enough army through them to lift The Scourge’s siege on his city.

2: They are safe enough to allow for Traveling Snailsmen.

Sounds pretty viable, as far as options go. Definitely more viable than cutting their way through Hollowfall.

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But that’s expected.

Because when we would eventually have to use force, that force will be quicker than if there was no espionage to begin with.

I think you’re over-analyzing the success of the insurrection as something bad.

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Yeah, but if the Arathi were to simply move to the surface (which they can now do) and if the Kaheti could just tunnel into whatever passages Anub’arak used to get to Northrend, then…

… the game wouldn’t have any content or story for you because there’d be no conflict.

So we’re back to it being plot holes that are perpetuated just to make sure players have content and story reasons to do said content, even if the premise is entirely flawed.

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Starship Troopers matches the Arathi of Hallowfall to some extent.

You see it at the kids of the Orphanage who constantly play war against the Nerubians and Kobyss, indoctrinated by the militaristic regime of the Arathi.

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It’s very Roman Empire, yes.

But that doesn’t mean there’s a plot hole.

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The existence of the Arathi is a plot hole. The Coreway hasn’t always been closed. It was collapsed by the recent Nerubians attacks. They have airships. They could have flown out of there ages ago.

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After they repaired the damaged airships and built some more they figured out that they won’t fit in the coreway and decided to stay where they are.