Is Turalyon set to reclaim Undercity for (with) the Light?

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I’d be very interested in knowing the context of this, considering Metzen himself gave us Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos, which directly demonstrated how the Alliance was not necessarily morally-superior.

The interview comes from MoP.

https://www.engadget.com/2012-03-19-mists-of-pandaria-chris-metzen-interview.html

Thank you. I found that a very interesting read, actually.

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Unless, again, we have something in-between the two poles, where the Alliance is shown to have the potential for moral corruption and villainy, but certainly not to the extent that we keep having these giant, apocalyptic acts that produce little more than shock value.

At this point, it doesn’t matter what Blizzard makes the Alliance do, or what the Alliance is shown as capable of, because unless it is the same stuff the Horde has done, players will always state, “Hey, the Horde did X. This is justified.” It will NOT be justified but players will argue that it is.

Nah, see…that’s just playing, “what-about,” though.

Which leads us back to how most Horde players, especially after BfA, genuinely want to feel good about playing Horde: an orc, a troll, a tauren, a goblin, etc.

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The Horde has crossed a moral event-horizon, and the only way for the two factions to be morally equal is for the Alliance to do the same

I strongly disagree with this, if only because I think ultimatums of this nature are highly unrealistic for a fantasy setting with the narrative backstory that WoW has.

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…and that CANNOT be by different means, or else players will argue it’s not as bad as what the Horde did, or it’s justified because the Horde did X and X is way worse.

See, this is where you’re wrong—do you speak for all players of both factions? No; you’re making a generalization on what they’ll do based on your own bias.

And no, before you try to argue that I’m doing the same when I claim that “Horde players want to like playing Horde,” I’ll gladly reiterate that I have actually bothered to read hundreds of comments from Horde players confirming this, am currently subscribed to at least two different topics on this very subject, and am more than happy to point you in their direction:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/how-can-we-redeemrebuild-the-horde/837820

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wanting-to-be-hated/838095