Is this against the rules: holding zones hostage for ransom

I haven’t read every response yet but the answer is basically that you can report the player but don’t expect a positive response.

If Blizzard didn’t do anything about what was happening with the AQ gate collusions, including all the gold payment stuff, they most likely won’t do anything about this.

In this case at least you do have a real PVP solution.

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That’s technically cross-faction collusion and, historically, has been bannable. However, Blizzard is being very lax about actually enforcing such things.

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Nah, they are lazy in retail too. They just want easy money without work.

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100% against the rules

PvP would involve the 60 Alliance rogue attacking the Horde 60s.

It could fall under zone disruption, but it would have to be extreme for Blizzard to do anything about it, I imagine.

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As long as the problem can be solved with PvP, its PvP. This problem can be solved by just killing the the Horde here.

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Yep, just ignore the cross-faction collusion part and everything is fine.

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This is pretty silly despite it “technically” being against the rules.

Its more roleplay than actual abusive collusion.

Nobody is going to actually pay them any money to quest in peace, people will just go elsewhere or get others to kill the horde.

If it was like an entire raid group doing this for days on end to block a “required” quest chain like attunment or class quests i could see it being a problem that would require blizzard intervention, but this is pretty much just a small handful of players ganking while an alliance roleplays as mafia negotiator ineffectively

Is “cross-faction collusion” actually actionable in Classic? Is it written down anywhere that its against the rules? Or are people just making the assumption its bad?

Its also a pretty big assumption that there is “collusion” going on this particular case anyways. It could just be an alt of one of the Horde…unless you’re trying to imply that colluding with yourself is against the rules too.

You can’t make an opposite faction alt on a PvP server without a second account. For this exact reason.

2 accounts. It has to be 2 accounts if they’re logged in at the same time.

And it’s still cross-faction collusion…

Here’s the ToS if you’d like to read it!

On a PvP server yes I would argue that.

“For World of Warcraft specifically, allowing players who are playing characters aligned with the “Alliance” faction to chat or otherwise communicate directly with players who are playing characters aligned with the “Horde” faction, or vice versa.”

Is the only thing that could be considered even close. But if you want to read this as “the letter of the law” Then it is against the rules to use real-ID chat /shrug. And even if it was against the rules, there is no way to prove they were chatting using a 3rd party program like Discord…so it becomes basically unenforceable.

Nothing about Blizzard’s actions have made me even remotely believe that they don’t want cross faction collusion. Phase 2 pvp and AQ opening has made that crystal clear.

Wow. You have to be a troll, right? How on earth could you excuse this trash as “roleplay”?

Wrong, my brother talked with the guy for a bit and he said 27 people had already paid him for protection.

Wrong. As I said in my original post (which you once again clearly didn’t read), there were 3-4 horde players doing the ganking and they were very clearly separate players, not a multiboxer.

Here is a screenshot of the Alliance guy posting his ransom in General chat. I blanked out the names in case the forums have some kind of rule against witch hunts or something.

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I’m not sure my man, which is why I made this forum post to find out, hey? It seems that cross-faction communication of any sort was 100% against the rules in vanilla wow, but who knows if that still applies to Classic.

Continually killing quest givers and flight masters just to grief people is considered zone disruption, and an actionable offense. Camping lowbies, as scummy as is it, is perfectly fine. Report all the players for zone disruption and hope blizz something about it.

Sounds pretty far-fetched to me. He was probably just yanking your chain. Can’t imagine anyone actually paying this “ransom.”

It’s what happens when you defund the police.

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He’s clearly killing lowbies on his horde and using his alliance to collect money. In that screenshot he says the ganking is being done by “the #1 PVPer”. No one talks like that. He’s talking about himself. He’s probably got some PVP friends or guildies there with him and they all thought this would be funny. I doubt 27 have paid him either.

I stand by what I said earlier. You can report him just don’t expect anything.

Cross faction collision is an actionable offense. People usually get away with it because it’s either fairly insignificant or hard to prove.

In this case it seems there would be a chance of action being taken.

I’d argue that while this is a crappy thing to do, it’s not expressley illegal.

A GM might have another oppinion though.

Sounds to me more like a Karen making a big deal out of silly pvp shenanigans.

This sounds like the type of shenanigans the whitemane discord frequenters get into all the time. Random “collusion” like things which pretty much just boils down to world pvp and banter.

I HIGHLY doubt anyone actually payed this person for safe questing aside maybe a few people for the meme of it, definitely not 27 people, anyone with money to blow on something like that would just be buying boosts instead

This thread is dumb

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