May i ask how LFR supports the raiding scene?
My only guess is it supplies people who see the content and want to go into a harder difficulty but i dont know anyone who has ran LFR in years, even on their alts. Most of my raid team hasn’t even touched LFR all expansion (including alts, because why bother when you can get m+ keys done with ease), and this was the same last expansion with a different raid team, possibly even less ran it since it was more hardcore than this one is.
Why did you leave out the part how if you didn’t raid you got 2 emblems of frost per day from the daily heroic quest and items cost either 60 or 90 emblems per piece.
Blizzard said that, before LFR, very few people actually raided. Certainly not enough to justify the cost of creating raids. So LFR was born, its design being to get more people into raids and experience the work that went into them.
If it wasn’t for LFR, Blizz would have cut the budget for raids and raiding would either be horribly scaled back or removed completely in favour of Mythic+ only.
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Yes they are. Masking visions are not. I’m talking about running the final boss or maybe one area. It still awards 445 gear the first time each week.
Hyperbole much? And yes you can. I did. On a resto shaman. All you need to do is wait for someone to come along and “help” them kill things. Does it take a little longer? Absolutely. But it’s definitely doable.
100% subjective.
No one is asking you to “step up your game” and do harder content. All of the things I listed out are completely doable by someone with a 400 i-level or even lower. If you can’t be bothered to even have a 400 i-level at this point in the game, then that’s completely on you.
He’s talking about the cloak itself.
A rank 1 cloak is ilvl 470.
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There is zero reason to run them now. The expansion is over. My alts cannot even catch up with their essences, as because they lied to us multiple times they are so far behind they will never be able to buy corruptions…
Old content is it.
You have only ever completed 2500 world quests. Clearly you find them not worth doing, but somehow you think I should find them engaging.
Typical.
Well aren’t you the most amazing player that’s ever been? And humble, too.
Whatever you want to believe about the right way to force other people to do content that seems to have made you angry and antisocial.
I’ll pass.
Dont kid yourself lol. There is plenty of 8.3 left.
It wouldnt take much just doing the daily emissary and the invasions.
Its just a matter of whether or not you can plug your nose long enough.
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I did every tier AotC this expac as a casual. It is more accessible than ever. World content gives up to normal raid ilvl gear.
Sure they can, my resto shaman alt that I just leveled within the last month or so has 4 level 3 essences. It didn’t take much more than a couple of weeks to get them either. And I did pretty much the bare minimum I could get away with on her.
My main has the 10,000 daily quest achievement along with the 5,000 world quest achievement. Clearly you shouldn’t rely on my alt’s achievements to make judgements. I enjoy them just fine when I’m in the mood though. But I can completely understand if someone doesn’t find them engaging. Good thing there’s more to this game than just world quests though, right?
You just love hyperbole, don’t you? I’m not sure how stating that I wait for people to come and help them kill things all while taking a little longer warrants a sarcastic remark about how I’m both amazing and humble, but I guess I’ll take it.
Yeaaaah, I’m not sure that I’m the angry and antisocial person between the two of us, just sayin.
Edit: I’d like to add that I only think that gearing is fairly casual friendly this expansion. Other systems like corruption definitely are not, and I’m glad that they’re gone after this patch.
That this is the description of end-game systems is a major problem with BFA. There’s too many things turning and too many other forms of content that you just have to grit your teeth and grind on. I think one of the worst things Blizzard ever did was listen to Asmongold. Asmongold kept saying over and over and over that he hated play the patch and he wanted reasons to play old content or to carry over rewards from one patch to the next. This system has been a DISASTER. An absolute DISASTER. The concept of Essences is horrible. The whole thing should burn. I came back to the game and I’m already starting to see how once the routine sets in, once I finish the war campaign, I’ll be absolutely done with BFA in just a matter of a few weeks because the end-game systems are so god awful.
I don’t know if I’m the biggest fan of Ghostcrawler, but the formalization of “play the patch” under his regime was one of the best things WoW has done. I DO NOT WANT TO PLAY OLD CONTENT OKAY? I WANT TO GO HANG OUT WITH OTHER PLAYERS AND PLAY CURRENT CONTENT. Play the patch is the way WoW feels like it was always meant to be.
Like, god damn dude. I hate essences. I hate this azerite nonsense. I hate this cloak grind nonsense. Just give me one bar that I fill up and maybe like 1 currency that I farm. That’s it. Just stick to those two systems during the expansion. They’re promising this will be the case with Renown and Carcerus, but time will tell if they go back on their word.
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Pretty casual and I’m still here. I can get to 445 (raiding normal) without doing anything but soloing, I feel like that’s kind of unprecedented if anything. The fact that LFR is good for nothing does suck, I enjoyed it most around MoP when you could get tier and have a good fight but it wasn’t a wipefest or a snoozefest like, say, WoD was.
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I don’t know why people keep saying this when it’s completely untrue. The fact that an item is purple does not make it good. The purps you get from world quests, LFR, normal mode, low level keys, etc are garbage. It’s harder to obtain QUALITY gear than it has ever been in the history of WoW. To get good gear you have to grind harder and in more difficult content than ever before.
Casual myself here. I always find something to do. The highest content I go into is a mythic dungeon or low key, and that’s okay with me. Lfr is a huge time consuming waste of time at the moment, so I avoid that. I mostly farm for tmog and mounts. This game really appeals to the collectionist part of me, and luckily there is endless things to collect! I think you need to expand your view of things you can actually do as a casual player
Once my characters hit 120 they just go into the my world quest schedule. I spend most of my time leveling characters just to ditch them for the most part at 120.
I got to almost heroic raid i-level on my shaman by doing emissary quests, invasions, weekly quests, and easy cloak runs. Gearing is a breeze (but can take a few weeks) up to 445-450. It’s the rest of the end game systems that make grinding a mind numbingly tedious chore in this expansion.
If you’re equating “quality” gear with mythic level gear, then it’s not any harder than it was before barring the removal of titanforging.
As a casual, what do you expect to be? 480 with bis everything? You don’t need that. You don’t deserve that. It’s incredibly easy to get heroic geared or equivalent. 445 is plenty good for almost anything a typical casual would do. You aren’t pushing mythic raiding. Warfont is a 460 every other week I believe, doing a +5 even each week is a 455 if I’m not mistaken, visions are cake walks for free gear, multiple each week depending on how good/far in the research tree you are. Conquest cap is good gear, can even choose stats azerite ect. World bosses drop solid quality gear for a casual. Mythic dungeons which are incredibly easy and accessible and drop good gear. Even if you’re goal as a casual is to do some heroic raiding, again, sooo easy. You can hit 450 in like 8 hours as an experienced player, less even sometimes. So any casual can do it in a matter of a week or two. You don’t need BIS and ilvl is almost always quality for casual. They don’t know any better nor care to research it and that’s fine. And corruption, essences? Who cares, as a casual you don’t need 10 3 expedient and your 4 bis essences, focusing iris and crucible rank 1 is fine.
If you think normal raid gear isn’t quality, or free 445 azerite that eventually have your traits if you even care. Like what exactly is quality gear? Some normal raid gear is easily better than 460 pieces in some places like trinkets and azerite and weapons.
AFAIK visions drop 420 gear for just killing the boss and 430 for boss + 2 areas. 445 doesn’t drop until you clear all 4 areas + boss. It is always corrupted though. 
Strangely i think it’s becoming more casual friendly yet casual restrictive at the same time.
On one hand, raids have 4 levels of difficulty and m+ have virtually endless levels of difficulty. That is way more “customization” to find the content that is best suited for your time and commitment level than ever before.
On the other hand, tooltips are vague, contradictory, or incomplete, and you have to use more addons, tools, or third party sites than ever. Coming back to the game after taking a long break was extremely dififcult without first basically earning a degree in “world of warcraft” (i.e., reading guide after guide after guide of all the current systems and mechanics).
It’s a weird combination.
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The game is highly tuned around casual play. I would say it very much about milking the casual play style to the greater extent. Other than that right now I am speechless to say more.