??? In what way? Why do people say this? We do beast AoE (so M+), bring plenty of utility, we can stealth. And in raid, yeah, you have to be good to play Feral right, but when you do, you’re checks Proudmoore DPS rankings the best DPS player on the realm, beating every other class.
I’m not even 90th percentile and I’m typically at the top of DPS. I truly don’t understand how people can say this. Feral AoE is literally braindead easy.
Because they don’t know what they’re talking about.
What does being bad mean to you?
I think there is a lot of stigma left over from recent years. Feral is on average better than half of DPS in raid rankings and an absolute beast in M+. It’s even run in the MDI.
Exactly. I guess these dudes don’t like the amount of work they have to put in and still get **** on by DH.
@Dreta and @Mevaar don’t run either. Answer Caelus’ question.
Nah it’s not.
Let’s party up and open on a target dummy and see who does more damage. I’m not joking.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/20#bracket=15
Feral is better than balance and better than most specs.
They’re literally not, also, is this your main? If so, your comment is a joke.
No one want’s demonology locks. It’s either affliction or destruction.
As someone who actually raids and does M+
Affliction, arcane, marks, holy priest, and survival are rated worst for M+.
Windwalker, unholy, ret, outlaw, and arcane are rated worst for raiding.
Feral is currently in the top 10 DPS for raiding, despite what the casuals on this thread are saying. Feral was in a very bad spot earlier in the expansion, so stigma is leftover from then.
No we don’t need mass rooting.
Speak for yourself, mate!
Anybody that just auto-attacks is probably an undesirable teammate for raiding and M+. Please use spells! Please click something!
This is true and it makes me very sad. 
#BuffMM
Buff them! I agree! Though, BM is really good.
I always acknowledge when my spec is bad, because I am sick of my spec being bad every expansion. Fortunately, feral is actually in a decent spot right now, so my complaints are minimal. Especially with the changes in Shadowlands.
I have heard that warlocks in general are least desired in mythic dungeons. Which is kinda sad since they lack mobility while spellcasting, as constantly having to move is a huge penalty to the warlock’s DPS.
Looks like Dreta and Mevaar finally piped down 
Good talk you two.
I assume they’re asleep. It’s very late. I’m eager to find out whether those are their mains so I know if I can laugh at the guy failing 15 keys and the guy whose best key is a +6, believing they are able to speak for raiding and M+.
Oh no people rate each other on M+ dungeons? Dang it, I hate those lol.
Well, OP is specifically asking about M+ and raiding, so we’re looking at those rankings. The two people insisting feral is bad are, themselves, very bad.
I wish people would be nicer to the feral spec, it is the coolest one and they are missing out! And thank goodness 
I don’t usually do the M+ dungeons in time because I only do the completion groups for the weekly chance to being disappointed.
Feral is cool when you don’t have to use savage roar. That’s when it becomes a trash tier spec imo.