thats something else i cant quite get my head if the old tos is the same why am i req to agree to a new form of this term/agreement if im already bound by these rules which i dont have any problems with cant they ban me already if i was vulgur or hateful to another?
No. Actually it’s so if somebody asks a question and you don’t want to help them, you keep quiet rather than calling them rude names for being a new player who doesn’t know everything yet.
So much projection.
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TOS, EULA
same thing under a different name.
Again, I see nothing in what you posted that refers specifically to, “Hate Speech”. It is not in there. It IS in the new contract.
Welcome to WoW!
Edit: Who gets to determine what constitutes hate speech? What guidelines do they have in place? It isn’t specified in the new contract. Only that they will discipline for it.
It’s a reminder that you’re supposed to follow those rules.
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If it is just a reminder, then just have you click that it a person read it, not agreed to it.
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It’s just a tldr reminder because they know nobody reads the actual thing lmao
Anybody actually worrying about this is super sketchy
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Very nice of you to make that assertion about people being sketchy just because their opinion is different than yours. Perhaps, that is what they mean by being nice, but prejudging people is a bit unwarranted. Stay safe, be well.
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It was in the original docs, and has been in the current Code of Conduct referenced by the EULA for years.
That you did not read it is on you.
Communication
When participating in communication of any kind (chat, voice communication, group finder), you are responsible for how you express yourself. You may not use language that could be offensive or vulgar to others.
Hate speech and discriminatory language is inappropriate, as is any obscene or disruptive language. Threatening or harassing another player is always unacceptable, regardless of language used. Violating any of these expectations will result in account restrictions. More serious and repeated violations will result in greater restrictions.
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yes, it’s legally binding. the entire ACLU is currently gearing up for decades of messy litigation over this.
so if i go into game and click accept the terms that i have already agreed to will not change and will stay the same ?
Any time you see the word “contract” used as a noun, you can replace it with “agreement” and it will mean the same thing.
The reason they call it a “social contract” is because it’s a reference to something most people probably at least briefly learned about in history class (i.e., the fact that a guy named Rousseau wrote a philosophical treatise whose title, when translated from French to English, is often shortened to “The Social Contract”)
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When we accepted the EULA we accepted that it can be changed at any time. You will get a specific EULA pop up to accept if when that happens. Nothing will stay the same forever. Although the basic rules are pretty consistent. The big stuff had to do with court arbitration.
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Did YOU read what you posted prior to this one? omg. This second part was not included in any of that you posted in the first part. This second part is what I was in search of. Thank you. This was updated 2 years ago. It is in their code of conduct. Prob why I couldn’t find it. Seems that they felt the need to include this addendum now, in the form of the Social snowflake Contract.
The rules they are stating have been in force, in one way or another, since 2004.
The only ones melting down, as you say, are people who want to break the rules they agreed to.
Treat people in public with respect, don’t use profanity and insults, etc. This is age old.
If you need a safe place to be a jerk, there are other games out there.
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They need to add a decline button, the exit button boots me out of the game.
While there ‘is’ a way to log in without accepting and prevent the contract from ever popping up, I won’t say what those steps are as I intend to bring it to Blizzard’s attention when I get off work so that they can fix this ASAP. Clearly it’s not intended behavior at all.
That being said, Mirasol is spot on. It’s really not the end all people claim it is.
Or is being a nice honest person so out of character for people that they must resort to demeaning others to feel something? This will at least ensure that people who engage in such behaviors or worse finally get theirs.
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Why do you assume I want to be a jerk? Do you know anything about me? Have you interacted with me in game? Why do you assume I am something you have a preconceived notion about just because I question stuff.
I never once said I didn’t sign it. I never once said I disagreed with it. I never once said it was a bad thing. Why are you attacking me because I questioned something? You seem to be in need of practicing what you preach. All I said is that the Hate Speech was new. And you jump down my throat. Now, I can say that you have committed hate speech towards ME! ? !
This is a very good point, as the language of the social contract is very vague, unlike the EULA which was well written and unambiguous. As an example, the new social contract uses the term “race”, but does not specify whether it is referring to the players race or their characters.
I’m aware of that ill put the question in a different way. so the EULA hasn’t changed and I’m not agreeing to anything new when I accept this social contract on log in. And is there anything that states what’s being changed if the EULA has changed?
You refer to it as a snowflake contract. Do you think people are dumb as to what you think of it? Lol…
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