Is the Jailer stronger than Sargeras?

The Jailer is only stronger because he’s drinking so much anima. I suspect we’ll have a chance to squeeze it out of him before his fight. :thinking:

That’ll depend on if we fight the jailer. We could never go toe to toe with Sargeras.

I wonder if we finish the Jailer off this expac or if they are hoping for a multi-expansion arc for him?

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That is a damn good question concerning Gul’dan in WoD and Sylvanas in BfA.

As much as I find the Jailer to be a garbage villain so far, I hope they go the multi-expac route. Otherwise he’ll seem way too disconnected from the WoW mythos IMO - spending more time with him actually allows the potential for a better character.

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The real question is: Why is the jailer so stiff? Everytime I see his model I am thinking “Dude, relax a bit”. His movements don’t have a good flow at all!

Telly Savalas enters the thread

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The Jailer appears to be close to his goal for the First Ones so perhaps it’s possible it’ll play out that he summons something stronger such as how Gul’dan summoned Archimonde. :thinking:

Stronger than the Jailer?! Egads! The power creep is too much for me to handle.

I would be okay with the Jailer “escaping” to Azeroth and causing shenanigans (mysterious time skip?) and for us to fight him next expac. But who knows.

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Potentially Azeroth could have another key that (if we remove Anduin from him) the Jailer has to climb to Azeroth.

Jailer is weak. Think about it… he deals with those that are already dead. They have little to fight for and are mostly resigned to their fates. “We” are the only ones to come along in a millenium to upset his little lemonade stand.

I hope so. Itd be nice to have a main villain on screen for an xpac or 2 rather then years of off screen hype to be defeated the patch they come out

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Pfft, if ya wanna waste time sure…why don’t we just nuke him with Athanos?

It’s kind of hard to say. Whereas the Titans traverse reality as they please, I’m not sure if the Eternal Ones leave the Shadowlands. Although Blizzard is haphazard with those things, everything that isn’t mortal seems kind of locked or anchored to their own corner of the universe with the Titans being the oddballs.

Sargeras single handedly is responsible for cutting planets in half and defeating every member of the pantheon. Sorry to say it, but the Jailer obviously was defeated by his own pantheon. And they aren’t exactly the strongest of people. Look at Denathrius. We defeated him pretty easily.

Also I should note that we needed every legendary weapon on the planet to stand a chance against Sargeras’s forces.

I don’t really understand WoW powerscaling at all.
But lets play this out.

Round 1 - Sargeras steps on the Jailer.

There is no Round 2.

OK but thats just letting Sargeras go first. What if the JAILER goes first.

Round 1 - Jailer TAUNTS Sargeras and does nothing. Sargeras steps on the Jailer.

There is no Round 2.

OK OK… so what if we let the jailer go first AND for some reason he’s now actually somehow competent.

Round 1 - The Jailer does his really slow moving AOE chains thing. Sargeras steps on the Jailer.

There is no Round 2.

I don’t see a scenario where the Jailer could win, hes just a pathetic villain. End of the day, Sargeras could probably just blow up the Maw, I mean if he can blow up a planet he can blow up the Maw, that’s only 1 pretty small zone.

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There are two or three unused portal spaces in Oribos and the way the opened portals are spaced, I think there may be other realms in the Shadowlands. I figurer one of those portal spaces is a return to the living realm for souls that are to be reborn.

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Demons wouldn’t go to the Maw in this case, they will continue respawning in Argus/Twisting Nether.

Of course, should they fight before we fought Argus, not after.

Does he have a nasty punch to go with his regime?

just one…

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