I am wondering if I have a full version of Restedxp, can I be banned for that, or is it allowed due to a loophole? I don’t pay for it, so I was curious what the decision would be
Rested xp addon is free, you are just buying a guide that works with the addon if you choose to pay for it.
It is safe to use.
why do you even need it the outland content is so straight forward its not like schizophrenic alliance quest of vanilla that send you across the globe to talk to some guy then back to the other side of the world to talk to the first guy you talked to
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Well I am speaking more for my 1-60 leveling not 60+ but also just curious because me and some friends don’t want to get banned for some stupid addon
well you can buy the paid version for half the cost of a boost or just boost and save a ton of time. the addon really does not optimize the game as much as the streamers who are paid to advertise it make it out to be. you will be just fine with questie, if you want to 1-60 just remember the 1-60 was designed to mostly be raw mob grinding rather than quest. they started the quest to level mindset in tbc and every expansion after optimized the questing
It’s really only illegal to sell the addon (parts included), but it’s fine for people to download and have
Do not pay for that.
Join any server discord a d get a free download of it.
No you won’t be. it is not supported or anything but its not against rules.
Players definitely don’t have to worry about being actioned for using it, but the add-on (and a few others) clearly spit in the face of their addon-policy. Blizzard just doesn’t enforce it.
Rule #1 specifically calls out not charging for the addon, creating premium versions of the addon, or charging for services related to the addon.
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The reason it is allowed is because anyone can make and use a guide for RXP. You do not need their paid guide to use it.
In prepatch there was an addon everybody used called TBC Prep that used the RXP framework and it let you collect items and start quests and prepare to turn in things to hit level 63 at launch just from turning in quests.
This counters nothing to what I said; their policy specifically states
“All add-ons must be distributed free of charge. Developers may not create “premium” versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.”
No way to spin it; the fact that you can use a free version or make your own doesn’t change that they should either fall into having a premium version of the addon or they are charging for services related to the add-on.
AFAIK their free version stops at like level 20 with hopes you buy the full version. That’s their business model.
Yea its a strange loophole.
Its the same with Fojji, its “free” but also has a paid for side.
I dont get the loophole or how it works.
You are not allowed to have an addon that is paid.
So they release the addon for “free”, but the addon is basically a trial. They then sell “guides” to attach to the addon which gives you the whole thing.
I don’t even see it as a loophole, I just don’t think Blizzard enforces their policy in any capacity. If their policy was simply “You cannot charge for addons” so people sold addon skeletons with paid for packages that would be a loophole by respecting the letter of the law, but not the spirit similar to how people respected the MB software ban by switching to hardware until Blizzard updated their policy.
The way their addon policy is written is borderline cut and dry; if you wanted to be slightly more definitive I might rephrase the last sentence to “Otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on or any feature of an add-on”
EOTD though they specifically call out not having premium versions or paid services related to them.
I really don’t get how people don’t read that first bullet point of their policy and still come to the conclusion they found a loophole to the policy that Blizzard has never patched. Most of the time I have these conversations with people they appear to not have read that first point that covers more beyond the fact that addons can’t be charged for.
Again, Blizzard just doesn’t enforce the policy. It’s just that simple.
Yeah but the rule is it must be free and their cant be any premium versions..etc.
You really get get passed this with any loophole, idk.
I don’t really know what you mean when you say “loophole” in this context.
A loophole is an ambiguity or flaw in a set of directions, law, contract, system, etc. Since Blizzard has covered the concept of not creating premium versions or charging for services related to the add-on I don’t think there’s any loophole here being exploited, just a lack of enforcement.
My example of a loophole was the whole MB ban they did; software ban first so players went to hardware setups. Then Blizzard banned hardware setups. Using hardware over software absolutely was a loophole.
Again, the addon is free. Nothing is stopping you from creating and distributing your own guide that the rxp addon can read for free.
This is the loophole.
The best example I can find is the Epic Music Player addon. It lets you play in game wow music, but it also lets you play custom MP3 files. Just because the player lets you play a song you bought off iTunes, does not make the addon against the rules. This is why they let RXP get a pass.
Rxp is simply a guide player.
I’m not saying I agree with it, but if I’m looking at this through the leans of a lawyer I think that’s exactly the loophole. They aren’t selling the addon, they are selling a guide.
Okay the addon itself is free of charge so we are good
Again, there is no “different” version of the addon that you pay for. You are not paying to “unlock” features of the addon.
- Again not charging to download the addon, the addon is free.
- You are not paying for any services related to the addon. This one is for sure broad and they could probably get them on this one but here is why I don’t think they do…
The restedxp addon is an addon that’s built to “create your own guides/paths”. You can use it to make your own and then follow it. Their explanation is “Here is an addon you can use to create your own path to leveling, but oh by the way we also have some guides here to buy if you want them”. So it’s not like theres a service you are paying for in order to make this addon function it’s just an optional thing you can do if you don’t want to make your own guides.
Again, not saying this isn’t sketch but this is why I think they don’t go after them because it does seem like a loophole.
Mate, all I can really say to you is that if you’re trying to argue that the addon is fine because it’s free then let’s be clear here that that part is true, but Blizzard should be going after the developers for selling services related to the addon because that is explicitly against the policy.
When I say “the addon goes against the policy” what I mean is “the developers should be held accountable”
TIL buying a guide to plug into the addon is not a service.
Bro.
You just said you wanted to look at this through the lens of a lawyer, but you want to give them a pass on doing something the policy specifically forbids because it’s not exclusive? That’s not how lawyering works my guy.
“You can’t charge for X” doesn’t mean “You can’t charge for X unless others can do X for free and on their own” it means “You can’t charge X”
They charge for X. That’s the ballgame. End. Finito. No further discussion to be had.
I am, for the record, also NOT a lawyer, but I work in a legal adjacent field and having literally written legal descriptions which has also involved discussing with people on proper wording and been involved with responding to lawyers who make inquiries. Part of my job has typically involved thinking how to write something in a way that does not leave room for interpretation, and if you ask me their policy does not leave anything up to interpretation of what you can or can’t do. Personally, I’d probably slightly reword the last sentence of their policy though to also include features, but for what it is I don’t think the fact that it’s not reworded doesn’t change anything.
It’s not, but let’s humor this slightly. Let’s say it is a legitimate loophole. I’d argue the fact of the matter is the policy seems pretty geared towards them not wanting people to be able to charge for addons in any capacity. That’s the spirit of the law, and if they were serious about it they’d update the policy to nip these in the bud. And the fact is they’re not. Just that simple.
As far as I’m concerned if they’re going to let these addons go free they might as well just remove this part of the policy. Nothing stops any addon developer from doing what they have done and making the game much more of a pay to play type game. Chances are if the game did go that way they might step in at that point, but this is just a small fish for them to fry.
Oh, and just for fun, the addon is also set up to make you emote that you dinged with the use of the addon in X amount of time so nearby players can see it and become curious about using it. Guess what’s also against the policy? Advertising goods or services. Buuuuuuuuuut I guess they get away with that though because apparently a paid for guide isn’t a service. Makes you wonder why anyone would buy it.
RXP is a guide player, just like an addon that lets you play mp3’s plays music.
Just because you bought an mp3 (guide) from itunes (rxp guide) and an addon lets you play it does not make it a paid addon.
You can spin it however else you want to. But this is the primary reason it is allowed.