This is peak forum idiocy
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I’ll just add that famously enslavers in the Americas forbid enslaved Africans from speaking in their native tongue. Instead compelling them through physical abuse to learn the language of the enslaver so as to more easily control them and stop them from conspiring in secret. If anything the Ogres would likely try to stop Orcs from speaking in Orcish and try to make them speak in strictly Ogre.
Zerde youre making up fanfic about how you think enslavers would act. But historically that has never been the case. Give me one historical example where enslavers forced the enslaved to speak their own tongue and somehow stopped them from learning the language of their enslaver. One example please.
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bro i’d say it’s utterly wild where this thread went but then i feel like i’d be underestimating these fora lol
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Ngl at this point I’m starting to regret agreeing with him about orcs not using Dawgar as their name for Draenor.
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We have some prolific posters that have some very interesting takes on proper and normal interactions.
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Making up things about slavery, both the word (slaves don’t work, they labour! This is a meaningful difference, I am very intelligent!). And the practice (enslavers would somehow stop slaves from learn their language and also welcome them speaking in a language they can’t understand! I am versed in the history of slavery and definately should be speaking authoritatively on the subject!).
All of this in the effort to justify the sloppy writing of the Orcish homeworld being called Draenor. And also to stymy conversation on the problematic implications of the Orcish homeworld being named by the Draenei colonizers who lead apocalypse directly to it’s doorstep.
What a powerful mind at work.
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If we’re going to be pulling up basic sources for basic things you learn in elementary school, here is the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article on slavery.
“Slavery is the ownership of a person as property, especially in regards to their labour.[1] Slavery typically involves compulsory work, with the slave’s location of work and residence dictated by the party that holds them in bondage. Enslavement is the placement of a person into slavery, and the person is called a slave or an enslaved person”
And let’s google “synonyms of work”.
Oh, what is that? The first result?
It’s labor.
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I mean, I know I can be a little rough to deal with at times. We’ve all had our moments. I’m always trying to do better though 
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ay i can’t comment on that virtuously, i also have been known to sling a lil mud and veer off the rails. but i try not to bring it down to, uh, discussing the finer points of owning other ppl when i do so.
Except colonizer did do it. Or more precisely it was a story repeated by revolutionaries in my own country:
In spite of repeated language instructions From the Crown on teaching the natives the Spanish language, there was only a little compliance. Instead the friars using common sense, kept employing the local languages, so much that in the period of intense nationalism in the nineteenth century, the failure of the Spanish friars to teach Spanish was used by some of the ilustrados (Filipinos educated in Spain) as a reason to accuse the friars of deliberately keeping Spanish away from the natives so as to prevent them from advancing themselves.
You don’t have to look far to see this in-universe too. The pandaren were enslaved by the Mogu Empire for thousands of years and their culture and language was systematically supressed to the point that all pandaren today speak Mogu in their day to day life. The only ones who speak their native language, the old tongue as they call it, are scholars and formerly emperors.
Tsao is the only mogu respected and even loved by pandaren society because his reforms allowed pandaren to read, write and open schools where their own language was spoken. And he was hated by other mogu for it.
honestly we’ve given more thought to the languages of warcraft in this than blizz has, like, ever. they ain’t hiring linguistics consultants for their worldbuilding, they’re relying on randomized word generators.
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I guess the weirdest part about the whole situation is apparently every native Draenor race EXCEPT the orcs apparently had a name for the planet. Even the Arrakoa had their own name for their homeworld.
You’d think the orcs would have accidentally picked up at least one of them given enough time
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That is different than what you said you thought occured. This is an example of enslavers failing to enforce their desires and rolling with it rather than purposefully keeping Spanish away from the enslaved?
If this is what you were pulling from you should have lead with it and crafted your argument around it.
Species having unified languages has always been goofy. You’re telling me that the tribal orcs shared a common language? And didn’t all have their own languages specific to their region or tribe?
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I could see the orcs sharing a Mother tongue, but the dialect is different depending on the area they’re from
Correct me if I’m off base on that though
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Draenor just rolled off the tongue better than Daw’gar. Rakshar did, too. Can’t blame the orcs for going with either, especially if they wanted to get away from a word used by their oppressors.
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In Rise of the Horde each clan spoke an unique dialect of Orcish that differs so much from the dialects spoken by other clans that shamans had to communicate in a common tongue when the clans got together for Kosh’argh.
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The metatextual answer is that Draenei were originally conceived as natives to Draenor when they first appeared in Warcraft 3 so the planet being named after them wasn’t that weird.
Later on, the WC3 draenei were retconned into being a mutated subsection of the entire race and Eredar and Draenei were made to be the same race with the Draenei on Draenor being refugees running form the Legion.
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I have the mouth of a sailor and have a collection of bans/chat restrictions longer than my legs, and still my points usually are well made. Some people believe in being somewhat polite towards idiocy. I, however, do not subscribe to such niceties.
Realistically they’d have dialects of varying degrees, some closer than others from the root language. Think spanish/catalan/castellano/portuguese/french/italian to latin. They have way too varying customs not to be like that.
Also kudos on the history lesson about slavery, it was some gourmet stuff.
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