…have you SEEN how weird and elaborate draenei skulls can get? it’s be stranger if they DIDN’T develop a method of personality divination based on on their own noggins.
No, it just mentions that they worked in the same society as ogres, for ogres, and can have fluid fluent conversations with ogres and there is absolutely nothing from new content that suggests they can’t.
Worked? More like enslaved. And again they can have fluent conversation, but not in ogre and likely in orcish. On this notes, there are languages that are:
Asymmetric intelligibility refers to two languages that are considered partially mutually intelligible, but for various reasons, one group of speakers has more difficulty understanding the other language than the other way around. For example, if one language is related to another but has simplified its grammar, the speakers of the original language may understand the simplified language, but not vice versa. To illustrate, Dutch speakers tend to find it easier to understand Afrikaans as a result of Afrikaans’s simplified grammar
Ultimately, the word Draenor rolled off the tougue of orcs, and they just choose it. And unless you can find me proof that the orcs did use the ogre word for Draenor then all you have is head canon. 
Do slaves not work, Zerde?
Is this how far you’re willing to dig your own grave on this really dumb hill?
lmao.
Its called slave labor. Work implies you have freedom to do what you want.
I could ask you the same thing.
In any case, its lore orcs didnt have a name for their world and they thought the draenei was cool enough to use 
And what does the word labor entail zerde? Hmm? Wouldn’t be work now would it?
to perform work or fulfill duties regularly for wages or salary
Work, As I was using it in the original post, refers to the first definition. Words can have severals meanings.
Orcs did work for the ogres. Against their will. You’re not as clever as you think you are
Yes I mentioned that Kara. Good of you to ignore context of what I was referring to whenI said “worked”.
Clever enough that you(and Dread) have decided to argue about semantics instead of focusing on my point. That the orge/orc relations was not a dynamic that would lead to orcs wanting to adopt ogre words, if at all.
Not to mention the orcs just happened to like the name Draenor and so they used it. This is not something to “call out” the draenei on. They werent actively spreading the use of the name and just something the orcs did.
See, in portuguese, the word work (trabalho) refers to the efforts to accomplish a goal, doesn’t involve a salary whatsoever. By your own metric, volunteer work doesn’t count as actual work because the person isn’t getting paid.
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First off, you were the one who started talking semantics to try and save the sinking boat that was your argument. Second, enslaved people often use the language of their enslavers to some degree, even if against their will. This often ends up creating dialects that the slaves use amongst themselves.
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Nice annecdote, doesnt remotely matter in this case because yes, work can be used in that context. But I wasnt using the term “work” in that particular context.
What sinking boat? That you all have no lore that proves that the orcs use the ogre word for Draenor when I have specifically shown you where it states in lore why the word Draenor became common usage to the orcs.
That doesnt mean they will use for the term " Dawgar", hell considering it is just ogre for “known world” they might not have even considered it a proper word and more of a descriptor. And as I mentioned earlier there is nothing stating when the ogres themselves started using the word. For all we know this was a recent word developed by the ogres.
How is this an anecdote?
The one which you said that the ogres used one language to talk to the orcs and another to talk amongst themselves while providing zero evidence that they did.
And as I said, it might have started as just a descriptor for ‘known world’, it could have changed it’s meaning to be an actual name through time and change in dialect. This is just pure speculation until someone presents actual lore showing such a specific linguistic aspect of old Ogre/orc society.
How? when contact between the two races essentially consisted of this.
Draenei: Hi!
Orc: GO AWAY!
The orcs even kept them away from their own crashed ship because they misinterpreted what was going on inside it.
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oh lol fair enough. the rest of your argument is absolutely nutty and it really looks like you’re being a deliberately bad student of history to double-down on a really tangential notion. tbh i just misremembered the wiki’s entry on draenor; simply going ‘the orcs didn’t use the word’ would’ve been enough, but you’re going way off the rails about it. which i guess is pretty characteristic lmao
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honestly valid, it’s just strange that they’d have both great scientific knowledge and also believe in pseudoscience at the same time. unless it’s not pseudoscientific for the eredar, in which case, we’ve got an entirely different can of worms to open…
To be fair, that crashed ship was considered a sacred site to them. It’s 100% understandable why they wouldn’t want a bunch of newcomers fuffing about in their holy site.
“Oh but the Draenei said it was their tech and such”
Well, yeah, so what? Should the orcs take them at their words? We have hindsight and meta knowledge to know the Draenei were actually just trying to figure things out without malice. The orcs didn’t.
I’m not saying the orcs were right to do so, I’m saying it’s understandable why they did it.
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No it wouldnt. I literally mention at the start of this thread that this is lore from Rise of the Horde and Dread and his merry band of ad honimeners wouldnt accept it and either wanted to head canon that it outdated lore or trying to make some specious connection to the orges so that somehow the orcs were suppose to use the Ogre word instead.
And implicit in all of this is the need to somehow “call out” the draenei. Call out for what exactly? That the orcs just found their name for the planet to be cooler and decided to adopt it?
That’s a great title for a story, actually. Two sarcastic DKs and a cheerful druid go about having a grand ol’ time beating baddies up and learning the power of friendship. I’m already a fan.
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lol well yeah i mean if you’re busting out merriam-webster to try and win arguments about whether slaves would learn the languages of their owners (which they categorically would, if just about all of recorded history is any indicator), you’re sort of inviting ridicule upon yourself.
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The Ad Hominers: A tale of three friends sounds delightful. Where do I sign?
Edit: Unless the signing involves elven rings or rings for men, than I, as a dracthyr hunter, am obligated to hoard them 
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