Is it true there are only 4 classes that get to DPS?

What do you mean?

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Imagine spending all your waking hours managing a bunch of tide pod eaters as a raid leader and then when you’re about to start eating tide pods yourself due to mental breakdown some kid comes up to you and asks you if he can raid as ret

You seem to think feral is one spec and one role. You state to know so much, but fail to realize what hybrid even means. Oh well, you can be a gatekeeper. That’s your choice, but you’re a waste of a Classic player if you’re going to be so. Stick to retail.

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+1 from me

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So clearly you didn’t play vanilla? Plenty of raids had more than 3 hunters.

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Nope. I just assume if you’re comparing a Feral to a Fury Warrior, you’re talking about a Feral in Cat Form.

Nothing in the post you responded to even mentioned Feral specifically, anyway, so I don’t know what you’re getting huffy about.

I realize what hybrid means. You fail to realize what the role of DPS is, though, and why Hybrids aren’t good at it.

I don’t invite a DPS to heal. I don’t invite a healer to tank.

The irony of telling someone they shouldn’t play Classic because you disagree with what they say while saying they’re gatekeeping is absolutely hilarious

You’re gatekeeping right now, bud.

I, on the other hand, never said people couldn’t play hybrids; I said they should prepare for what will happen if they choose to play a spec that is bad. I never told people they shouldn’t play Classic if they want to play Feral, or Ret, or whatever else.

Yeah sure. There will be raids with more than three Hunters. Just not any good raids lol…

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My hunter will once again be a kiting, pet offtanking, trapmaster of “lolmeta” epicness.

My druid will be a 5 man hero and off-tank when someone wants a RAWRBEAR!

My pally will be for when I don’t want to tank with my face in the 5 mans.

My mage will once again be my pew.pew.pew.OHCRAP.I’MNOTATANK.stoppew.wand.wand…pew?

Game isn’t going anywhere, so if the guild I end up with clears MC when AQ comes out, so be it. If we’re having fun, we’ll get to it eventually.

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If you want the big deeps and loot thrown at you go ret pally, thank me later.

Fury live at the top of dps meters, usually followed by rogues n mages up to end of BWL. You have zero chance of catching fury damage. I sat at the top of my guild for dps as fury for a long time. As for pvp fury just wrecks with some back up heals, I hit rank 13 as fury and top the boards non stop in that, soon as anything hits 20% health its dead from execute, hk after hk non stop.
When I switched to guild tank, the top aggro were fury warriors and still top dps.
Its pretty much Warrior > Rogue=Mage > Lock > Hunter. Thats for tier 2.

I will say one thing I find amusing is people continually say how Vanilla was “play your class, not your spec” and yet it seems to be exactly the opposite; you are forced into a spec because the spec balance was wonky such that you couldn’t “play your class” without doing it in one very specific way.

Everybody worth their salt knows that by heart. Spec (including gear) is everything in all versions of WoW.

I enjoyed being my heal bot druid tyvm. :slight_smile:

I thought that in 1.12 the 3% crit and spell crit buffs from one feral druid and one boomkin could be worth it to a raid. Similarly I thought improved windfury totem made it worthwile to bring one enhancement shaman. Is this way off in terms of numbers?

only group wide in Vanilla - not raid wide

You are delusional. Having worthless hybrids in your raid is NOT FUN for the rest of the raid.

All the Great players will QUIT that raid and go somewhere that is serious about winning, then you will be a bunch of bads wiping on trash.

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Dude you are taking classic way too seriously. Not to mention we have 15 years of experience. I raided 8 hours a night 5 days a week and was garbage comoared to me now and i havent played since BFA. We have high speed internet and gaming peripherals, addons and macros.

Stop gate keeping, nobody cares about world firsts that we got 14 years ago. You sound like a miserable person to raid with, the exact wrong person to play classic.

Honest question what are you winning in classic? What’s the point of playing classic if you burnout, which i assure you you will raiding like that.

Not really, no. It wasn’t until TBC that Enhance became viable and Feral became decent. Balance was flat-out bad. Even during TBC it was only good for dipping into as Resto in Arena.