Did you ever watch Thrall kill Garrosh
Ok. Think about this realistically.
Its been less than a 100 years after WWII and we still have conflict within the same groups of people who fought in those wars. Some sides have changed (New Alliances) but their still is unresolved conflict among the main groups.
Its very logical and not forced, smh.
This is the real definition of Lazy story telling.
What? I guess if you ignore that our actual adversaries from WW2 are now our allies because we helped rebuild their governments and countries after we defeated them.
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Dont make me tap the sign again:
It is long since the time to remove the faction barrier. Dividing the factions from each-other only splits the player base needlessly. They just need to remove all grouping, trading, communicating barriers, queuing barriers They can leave cities hostile to one another. Leave toggled PvP. Leave Warmode. But just remove all the barriers that prevent players from playing together.
They have already taken far too many steps in that direction to go backward. And over the history of WoW, the two factions work together as much, if not more time than they spend fighting each other. It just puts an arbitrary restriction in the game, where one doesnt need to exist anymore.
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Calling it now. Well end up picking a race and faction if anything. Well never have vanilla levels of horde vs alliance built in that didnt feel like it was just words the npcs said.
no mean words to any1 on team red!
or im gonna report you
our warcraft shall be nice!
It’s been past time to remove the factions for over a decade.
It made negative sense to have the factions do an airship dogfight to decide whose infantry gets to walk up 96 more stories to lose a fight to the existential threat to the planet back in WotLK. What makes sense narratively is both airships flying to the open-air throne and carpet bombing Arthas into the Shadowlands way sooner.
The only reason the faction split continued is because every other quest on the Horde side has you as the player character perform a war crime for fun, then the Alliance refuses to wipe the Horde out after faction leader 6783918763 is killed and their forces are broken at the end of the expansion because Varian inexplicably chose to be a bleeding heart hippie in direct opposition to his seasoned murder gladiator characterization.
WoW’s story is a dumpster fire. The dumpster fire always should have taken a back seat to gameplay. And Blizzard’s failure to balance (read: Willful and obvious favoritism of the Horde) meant the gameplay has always been crap because of the faction split.
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There’s no point to a faction war anymore. Putting aside the whole “lets come together and hold hands to fight the big bad” we’ve done in nearly every expansion, the Alliance already won.
The Zandalari are the most powerful group in the Horde and we’ve already seen that raid and know how that goes. Next would probably be the Nightborne/Blood elves but those two are hardly Horde anyways, and wouldn’t be able to fight the Alliance alone. Orcs, Darkspear, Vulpera, Goblins, and Forsaken are all either too low in numbers, or reeling from loss after loss. The Taruen…well…do you think Baine would ever lift a hoof to harm his best buddy Anduin?
In MoP, the Blood Elves were planning to leave the Horde and rejoin the Alliance, but they got butthurt after Jaina kicked them out of Dalaran because they (read: You, as the player character, if you’re Horde) stole a magical mcguffin and gave it to the big bad.
Personally I don’t think they like the idea of committing to a genuine Horde Vs Alliance war because it requires the war move forward in some way. Major characters die, cities are lost etc.
And yes we had this in BFA but it felt very lukewarm. The “MAJOR” characters were left alone and given plot armor cough sylvanas cough while only the lesser “major” characters were killed off to show the effects of the war.
Capital cities were also “destroyed” but with the bronze dragonflight is barely matters. They’re still there just as before.
Blizzard’s problem is they want the war, but they don’t want to fully commit to it. They don’t want to kill off characters or permanently change anything to move the war forward. So we get this lukewarm story that feels like a side plot
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The entire Horde was given plot armor.
The Alliance literally has a space battleship. Loincloth-clad orcs with axes don’t fix that no matter how pointy their nipple armor is.
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Agreed. Blizzard had the tools and lore to make the war real and show the devastating aftermath of a full on war.
We had the space ship, Jaina and her flying arcane pirate ship, sylvanas and her entire city’s worth of plague, the night Bourne and blood elves with all their arcane might…
The war could be absolutely amazing, devastating, and tragic, but Blizzard settles for the lukewarm version where they don’t have to commit to killing anyone or destroying anything major. We’re supposed to feel bad and be invested but it’s hard to when all that happens is random nameless NPCs die
Khadgar is a neutral character. He let the Horde into Dalaran when the reasonable reaction would be for the Kirin Tor to shoot Horde characters on sight. The Horde wiped an entire town of Kirin Tor mages out, and then they got a section of the city named after one of their leaders. LAWL
That would be like naming your local library after John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy. Ridiculous.
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I don’t see the two factions going anywhere anytime soon. And I, personally, want them to remain separate factions.
What I don’t want is to see anymore all-out, global wars between them anymore. The power dynamics between the two factions is so wide that the only way Blizzard can make it work is make the Alliance braindead stupid to not use their literal spaceships to just nuke the Horde from orbit.
At most I just want small border disputes between specific races that never escalates beyond - “Stay off my lawn!”. I mean, Talanji and the Zandalari are still pretty angry over the death of Rastakhan, so I don’t see them allowing any Alliance setting foot on their island any time soon.
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They want the War in name only, but they don’t want the elevated toxicity that it would lead to from its already toxic playerbase.
and they don’t want to face the eventuality of having to formally declare an undisputed winner, which would piss off its Horde playerbase (because come on, we all know that the Alliance are the Noble Good Guys and would always be declared the winner over the Evil Orcish Horde in any actual war written to its conclusion by Bizzard).
Whatever floats your boat buddy.
If you’re for the factions to be 
I’m not going to lose sleep over it. Blizzard can do whatever they want, it’s their I.P. but I don’t have to support it.
For me the best times for WOW was when we had PVP servers and actual story conflict between the Alliance and Horde, to me that is Warcraft.
This cosmic PVE 
stuff loses the allure and mystery of WOW. It’s kind of gone down the line of the MCU. 
Today I logged in to be tagged to do dragon day care garbage. I mean seriously who is writing and doing these quests?
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Remove factions.
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